Night Fury Cam, stall converter? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

washd0403 · 10-13-2016, 12:29 AM

Is anyone running or have ran the night fury on the stock torque converter for the ss or zl1? I am preparing to start a cam project, and am deciding if a new stall converter is an absolute must at the moment. Thanks

DOC52 · 10-13-2016, 04:17 AM

Should always do converter before cam. I regret not getting the converter first.

Unreal · 10-13-2016, 07:24 AM

Stall converter is the single best performance upgrade you can do for an auto car. It should be one of the first things done on an auto. My wife's mustang dropped 7/10ths at the 1/4 mile just from a stall.

washd0403 · 10-18-2016, 01:00 PM

Does anyone know if the zl1 stall can support the night fury cam?

ClawSS · 10-18-2016, 01:17 PM

Ugh. Misinformation is strong in this thread.

A proper converter is chosen by a number of parameters. Usually the defining factors are weight of the vehicle, rpm @ maximum torque, actual usage of the car/truck, etc.

Well, you can't know the rpm @ MTq until you have the cam installed. Or if you buy a T/C based on stock cam, it will not flash or stall to appropriate range of the new cam plus drivability may suffer depending on the cam's idle and low rpm characteristics.

You do not come to a forum looking for converter stall size. You go to forums looking for anecdotal evidence of the proper manufacturer to choose and to find out which manufacturer seems to have a handle on the given platform (5th or 6th gen Camaro). After that you call or email the manufacturer with the specifications and intended usages of your car. Then and only then can you get an accurate "approximation" of what you specifically need. They would actually like for you to have a dyno sheet of your build if you really want to maximize your money.

Circle D FTW!

jc615 · 10-18-2016, 01:29 PM

You do not want that cam on a stock stall

Aaron at SDPC · 10-18-2016, 01:52 PM

OP this is a setup that has been done many times over. Give one of the vendors a call to help get you into the right converter for your planned combination. Like others have mentioned the camshaft you are looking to run will not work or perform properly with the stock stall speed.

10-13-2016, 12:29 AM	#1
washd0403 Drives: 2013 2SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 207	Night Fury Cam, stall converter? Is anyone running or have ran the night fury on the stock torque converter for the ss or zl1? I am preparing to start a cam project, and am deciding if a new stall converter is an absolute must at the moment. Thanks Last edited by washd0403; 10-13-2016 at 09:15 AM.

10-13-2016, 04:17 AM	#2
DOC52 THE U Drives: Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Northern California Posts: 601	Should always do converter before cam. I regret not getting the converter first. __________________ DOC52 Build Thread Instagram Bay Area Stock

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Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Stall converter is the single best performance upgrade you can do for an auto car. It should be one of the first things done on an auto. My wife's mustang dropped 7/10ths at the 1/4 mile just from a stall. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

10-18-2016, 01:17 PM	#5
ClawSS High-tech Redneck Drives: '10 CGM SS, '02 2500HD, '09 300SRT8 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 757	Ugh. Misinformation is strong in this thread. A proper converter is chosen by a number of parameters. Usually the defining factors are weight of the vehicle, rpm @ maximum torque, actual usage of the car/truck, etc. Well, you can't know the rpm @ MTq until you have the cam installed. Or if you buy a T/C based on stock cam, it will not flash or stall to appropriate range of the new cam plus drivability may suffer depending on the cam's idle and low rpm characteristics. You do not come to a forum looking for converter stall size. You go to forums looking for anecdotal evidence of the proper manufacturer to choose and to find out which manufacturer seems to have a handle on the given platform (5th or 6th gen Camaro). After that you call or email the manufacturer with the specifications and intended usages of your car. Then and only then can you get an accurate "approximation" of what you specifically need. They would actually like for you to have a dyno sheet of your build if you really want to maximize your money. Circle D FTW! __________________ "My friends call me Chris. Are you my friend?" 2010 CGM L99 2SS/RS - GPI SS3 VVT, BTR DoD Delete, Circle D 4c, BTR springs, Katech C5R Timing Chain, MRR-228 315/275, CAI, Elite catch-can, TSP 1 7/8" Headers + offroad pipes, Magnaflow 3", Pfadt springs, BMR LCAs, toelinks, trailing arms, cradle bushings, & sway bars w/ endlinks, Vitesse paddles, heritage grille, and an eBay splitter. Power upgrades by Race Proven Perf.; Tuning by ShorTuning. Last edited by ClawSS; 10-18-2016 at 01:51 PM.

10-18-2016, 01:00 PM	#4
washd0403 Drives: 2013 2SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 207	Does anyone know if the zl1 stall can support the night fury cam?

10-18-2016, 01:29 PM	#6
jc615 Account Suspended Drives: Camaro and Sierra Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 795	You do not want that cam on a stock stall

10-18-2016, 01:52 PM	#7
Aaron at SDPC Drives: Camaro Z28 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 36	OP this is a setup that has been done many times over. Give one of the vendors a call to help get you into the right converter for your planned combination. Like others have mentioned the camshaft you are looking to run will not work or perform properly with the stock stall speed.