2012 Camaro 2SS/RS VS 2012 VW Golf GTI - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

usnatclee · 03-06-2013, 02:11 PM

As the title says who would win from a dig?My SS is an auto. Same question but my wifes 2012 2LS VS the gti.

GretchenGotGrowl · 03-06-2013, 02:56 PM

Won't be close for the SS. The 2LS will probably lose. It has the wrong gearing for a track car.

usnatclee · 03-06-2013, 06:11 PM

I thought so. He thinks his awd will give him an advantage but he weighs 4200 pounds and has 256hp and 243tq to my SS 3780 pounds and 400hp. I think the V6 may have him cause it is 3780 with 323hp.

GretchenGotGrowl · 03-06-2013, 06:35 PM

They are low 14s cars, but the 0-60 is mid 5s. The 2LS just doesn't have the gearing of the 1LS (3.27:1) to pull down a 14.1-14-3 1/4 th. Now a good run in a 1LS or 1LT would be real close.

MYDLIFECRISIS · 03-06-2013, 06:38 PM

A Golf weighs 4200lbs??

GretchenGotGrowl · 03-06-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MYDLIFECRISIS

A Golf weighs 4200lbs??

Missed that, good catch. They run about 3400 lbs.

usnatclee · 03-06-2013, 07:02 PM

My buddy checked the sticker on the door that says his weight and it says 4200pounds for the gti.

GretchenGotGrowl · 03-06-2013, 07:15 PM

Wow, that's a pig. In that case I don't see how it could run low 14s. The 2LS may have a chance after all.

usnatclee · 03-06-2013, 08:16 PM

That is what i said. He also said that in 6th at 70mph he is at 3200 rpm. Seems like a lot.

SIN R G · 03-06-2013, 08:16 PM

First, the Golf GTI does not have a V-6 with 256 hp and does not have all wheel drive. The Golf R does have 256 hp and all wheel drive but it gets the hp from a turbo 4. The Golf GTI is FWD with a turbo 4 with I think about 217 hp, it used to be 200 hp but they have increased it. I have a 2008 Golf R32 which has 250 hp V-6 and all wheel drive. I don't know the exact weight but it is about 3,700. I have taken my R32 to the track and in 15 passes the best I have gotten from it is 15.34. I also have taken my 2SS to the track with a few mods and I have a best of 12.89. I do love both the R32 and my 2SS, but I do think a stock 2SS and a the V-6 Camaro will win.

usnatclee · 03-06-2013, 08:28 PM

Yeah o know it is a 4 banger. I was talking about my wifes v6 Camaro. Sorry for confusion.

RedWingsZL1 · 03-07-2013, 04:39 AM

If it's just a GTI? The V6 camaro should easily win, the SS no doubt would smash it.

Used to own a 2003 VW GTI w/ the VR6 (LOVE that VR6 exhaust note)

As someone stated above, 6th gear is rediculous on RPM, and they do weigh a metric buttload. 72mph was @ 3000RPM in 6th in my old GTI.

The 2012 has less HP and probably weighs even more.

The GTI is just a normal FWD turbo 4-banger. If it's a GTI R, it's AWD and as a bit more power.

usnatclee · 03-07-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RedWingsZL1

If it's just a GTI? The V6 camaro should easily win, the SS no doubt would smash it.

Used to own a 2003 VW GTI w/ the VR6 (LOVE that VR6 exhaust note)

As someone stated above, 6th gear is rediculous on RPM, and they do weigh a metric buttload. 72mph was @ 3000RPM in 6th in my old GTI.

The 2012 has less HP and probably weighs even more.

The GTI is just a normal FWD turbo 4-banger. If it's a GTI R, it's AWD and as a bit more power.

Yes it is a GTI R. I didn't know there was a difference he just told me today.

martyhalmi · 03-07-2013, 07:39 PM

not to get off topic but i cant believe those gti's weigh over 2 tons

03-06-2013, 02:11 PM	#1
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	2012 Camaro 2SS/RS VS 2012 VW Golf GTI As the title says who would win from a dig?My SS is an auto. Same question but my wifes 2012 2LS VS the gti. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

03-06-2013, 02:56 PM	#2
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Won't be close for the SS. The 2LS will probably lose. It has the wrong gearing for a track car. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

03-06-2013, 06:11 PM	#3
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	I thought so. He thinks his awd will give him an advantage but he weighs 4200 pounds and has 256hp and 243tq to my SS 3780 pounds and 400hp. I think the V6 may have him cause it is 3780 with 323hp. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

03-06-2013, 06:35 PM	#4
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	They are low 14s cars, but the 0-60 is mid 5s. The 2LS just doesn't have the gearing of the 1LS (3.27:1) to pull down a 14.1-14-3 1/4 th. Now a good run in a 1LS or 1LT would be real close. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

03-06-2013, 06:38 PM	#5
MYDLIFECRISIS Drives: '12SS/2SS/45TH-'06 2500HD/Silverado Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 2,107 View My Garage	A Golf weighs 4200lbs?? __________________ 2012 Camaro SS 2SS 45TH Anniversary Edition

03-06-2013, 07:02 PM	#7
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	My buddy checked the sticker on the door that says his weight and it says 4200pounds for the gti. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

03-06-2013, 07:15 PM	#8
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Wow, that's a pig. In that case I don't see how it could run low 14s. The 2LS may have a chance after all. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

03-06-2013, 08:16 PM	#9
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	That is what i said. He also said that in 6th at 70mph he is at 3200 rpm. Seems like a lot. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

03-06-2013, 08:16 PM	#10
SIN R G Drives: 2008 VW R32, 2011 Synergy Green 2SS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Randolph, Wisconsin Posts: 1,544	First, the Golf GTI does not have a V-6 with 256 hp and does not have all wheel drive. The Golf R does have 256 hp and all wheel drive but it gets the hp from a turbo 4. The Golf GTI is FWD with a turbo 4 with I think about 217 hp, it used to be 200 hp but they have increased it. I have a 2008 Golf R32 which has 250 hp V-6 and all wheel drive. I don't know the exact weight but it is about 3,700. I have taken my R32 to the track and in 15 passes the best I have gotten from it is 15.34. I also have taken my 2SS to the track with a few mods and I have a best of 12.89. I do love both the R32 and my 2SS, but I do think a stock 2SS and a the V-6 Camaro will win.

03-06-2013, 08:28 PM	#11
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	Yeah o know it is a 4 banger. I was talking about my wifes v6 Camaro. Sorry for confusion. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

03-07-2013, 04:39 AM	#12
RedWingsZL1 Drives: 2013 AGM M6 ZL1, 2008 Tahoe LTZ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 372	If it's just a GTI? The V6 camaro should easily win, the SS no doubt would smash it. Used to own a 2003 VW GTI w/ the VR6 (LOVE that VR6 exhaust note) As someone stated above, 6th gear is rediculous on RPM, and they do weigh a metric buttload. 72mph was @ 3000RPM in 6th in my old GTI. The 2012 has less HP and probably weighs even more. The GTI is just a normal FWD turbo 4-banger. If it's a GTI R, it's AWD and as a bit more power. __________________ 2013 ZL1

03-07-2013, 07:39 PM	#14
martyhalmi NJ Camaro 22 Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS M6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 264	not to get off topic but i cant believe those gti's weigh over 2 tons