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usnatclee · 03-07-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by martyhalmi

not to get off topic but i cant believe those gti's weigh over 2 tons

Neither can i. When he told me i made him show me the sticker to prove it. It also is crazy that at 75 he is at 3200 rpm.

RedWingsZL1 · 03-08-2013, 03:29 AM

If VW has stuck with their same trans gearing it's true. 72 was 3000 RPM in my old GTI.

There's numerous reviews you can read about the GTI R. It's no where near the beast the old R32s were. He'll beat you off the line for sure with the AWD, but get a good launch and you should real him in i'd think.

usnatclee · 03-08-2013, 08:41 AM

I have an L99 so it is way easier for me to launch then an LS3.

Zyklon-SS · 03-08-2013, 11:34 AM

There's no way on earth a golf gti is heavier than a camaro

RedWingsZL1 · 03-08-2013, 04:05 PM

From Caranddriver -

Adding the all-wheel drive, bigger brakes (13.6 inches up front and 12.2 in the rear versus 12.3 and 10.7 in the GTI), loads of standard toys, and other performance-enhancing kit bumps the Golf R’s curb weight to 3325 pounds by VW’s estimates. Bear in mind that VW’s quote for the regular GTI is about 100 pounds lighter than we recorded on our scales, so don’t be surprised if the R actually tops 3400. VeeDub further reports that the R should score fuel-economy ratings of 19 mpg city and 27 highway, compared with the manual-transmission GTI’s 21/31.

... the result is 256 hp and 243 lb-ft of torque...

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...olf-r-car-news

Deki · 03-11-2013, 10:29 PM

GTI weighs 3050lbs the R is about 3325-3375 depending on the amount of doors and options. Driver's race for a V6 Camaro vs GTI since they seem to trap about the same, and a slight advantage for the Golf R vs the Camaro.

camaro2lt · 03-17-2013, 01:00 PM

My friend has a 08 gti with an air intake and stage 1 tune......My v6 2010 Camaro has a trifecta tune,ported im,Mace 25mm,ported TB,bbk CAI and flowmaster axleback.....I would kill the gti right?

Camaro588 · 05-24-2013, 01:38 PM

Sorry to bring this back but GTI all the way......sorry. I had any 2008.5 with a tune for 93 octane with basic bolt-ons and our N/A engines have no chance against any modded FI vehicle. Mine sticker on the 2008.5 was 3200 gross weight. Wish I still had that car, was fun as hell.

Deki · 05-24-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro2lt

My friend has a 08 gti with an air intake and stage 1 tune......My v6 2010 Camaro has a trifecta tune,ported im,Mace 25mm,ported TB,bbk CAI and flowmaster axleback.....I would kill the gti right?

Driver's race, edge to the GTI.

08-G35s/6MT · 05-24-2013, 04:43 PM

I walked a stage 2 gti in my bolt on v6 6-speed accord, a manual bolt on Camaro should have no issues with good driver

turboguy327 · 05-24-2013, 05:09 PM

I've done this exact race in my old 2011 LS. I couldn't keep up and he was lowered with a apr stage1 tune and diverter valve. From a dig and a roll. The VW wins every time. Even when we switched cars. Camaro losses. And people need to learn to read a door sticker. That sticker tells you how much weight the car can hold. Nothing to do with how much it actually weights.

E.T. · 05-24-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by usnatclee

Neither can i. When he told me i made him show me the sticker to prove it. It also is crazy that at 75 he is at 3200 rpm.

He was probably misreading the door sticker. Those show the max weight or something along those lines. It's not what the car actually weighs.

03-08-2013, 03:29 AM	#16
RedWingsZL1 Drives: 2013 AGM M6 ZL1, 2008 Tahoe LTZ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 372	If VW has stuck with their same trans gearing it's true. 72 was 3000 RPM in my old GTI. There's numerous reviews you can read about the GTI R. It's no where near the beast the old R32s were. He'll beat you off the line for sure with the AWD, but get a good launch and you should real him in i'd think. __________________ 2013 ZL1

03-08-2013, 08:41 AM	#17
usnatclee Drives: '12 2SS/RS, '13 Vette, '13 Wrangler Join Date: May 2012 Location: wherever the Navy sends me Posts: 740	I have an L99 so it is way easier for me to launch then an LS3. __________________ 2012 Camaro Ashen Grey Metallic 2SS/RS "Timberwolf". Custom exhaust, RX oil catch can and oil breather, CAI inc intake, SLP 160* thermostat, TSP 2" LT headers w/ off road pipes, custom cam, tuned. 467rwhp 450rwtq. 2013 Corvette Torch Red LS3. 378rwhp/375rwtq SAE corrected, tuned. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK GO KU!

03-08-2013, 04:05 PM	#19
RedWingsZL1 Drives: 2013 AGM M6 ZL1, 2008 Tahoe LTZ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 372	From Caranddriver - Adding the all-wheel drive, bigger brakes (13.6 inches up front and 12.2 in the rear versus 12.3 and 10.7 in the GTI), loads of standard toys, and other performance-enhancing kit bumps the Golf R’s curb weight to 3325 pounds by VW’s estimates. Bear in mind that VW’s quote for the regular GTI is about 100 pounds lighter than we recorded on our scales, so don’t be surprised if the R actually tops 3400. VeeDub further reports that the R should score fuel-economy ratings of 19 mpg city and 27 highway, compared with the manual-transmission GTI’s 21/31. ... the result is 256 hp and 243 lb-ft of torque... http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...olf-r-car-news __________________ 2013 ZL1

03-11-2013, 10:29 PM	#20
Deki Drives: 2018 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,764 View My Garage	GTI weighs 3050lbs the R is about 3325-3375 depending on the amount of doors and options. Driver's race for a V6 Camaro vs GTI since they seem to trap about the same, and a slight advantage for the Golf R vs the Camaro. __________________ 2018 Mustang GT

03-08-2013, 11:34 AM	#18
Zyklon-SS Drives: 2010 2SS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Port Credit -ON Posts: 600	There's no way on earth a golf gti is heavier than a camaro

03-17-2013, 01:00 PM	#21
camaro2lt Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT VR/RS CGM Rally's Join Date: May 2009 Location: Palmyra, PA Posts: 5,675 View My Garage	My friend has a 08 gti with an air intake and stage 1 tune......My v6 2010 Camaro has a trifecta tune,ported im,Mace 25mm,ported TB,bbk CAI and flowmaster axleback.....I would kill the gti right?

05-24-2013, 01:38 PM	#22
Camaro588 Drives: 2012 camaro LS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Albany N.Y. Posts: 140	Sorry to bring this back but GTI all the way......sorry. I had any 2008.5 with a tune for 93 octane with basic bolt-ons and our N/A engines have no chance against any modded FI vehicle. Mine sticker on the 2008.5 was 3200 gross weight. Wish I still had that car, was fun as hell.

05-24-2013, 04:43 PM	#24
08-G35s/6MT Drives: racecars Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: BMN Posts: 1,776	I walked a stage 2 gti in my bolt on v6 6-speed accord, a manual bolt on Camaro should have no issues with good driver

05-24-2013, 05:09 PM	#25
turboguy327 Banned Drives: 2011 Chevy Camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Posts: 704	I've done this exact race in my old 2011 LS. I couldn't keep up and he was lowered with a apr stage1 tune and diverter valve. From a dig and a roll. The VW wins every time. Even when we switched cars. Camaro losses. And people need to learn to read a door sticker. That sticker tells you how much weight the car can hold. Nothing to do with how much it actually weights.