03-20-2009, 11:23 PM | #43 |
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let's take a pause and recall the original z-28. in an attempt to be competitive in the popular trans am racing series of the time, chevy worked to produce a production version of the camaro that could be competitive using off the shelf, or easily produced performance parts. the result was a Z28 that was affordable, yet exclusive enough to keep production #s low ( making them rare and sought after today).
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03-21-2009, 12:09 AM | #44 | |
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Holden engineered the zeta platform many years ago and it was first used in production in 2006. GM's business model has been losing market share for decades, long before the current crisis and the idea (not even the act of) canceling a much anticipated car when they desperately need to capture and retain customers is another example in a long line of examples of poor decisions. I made no accusations, just stated my opinion. I don't take offense to your rebuke so don't take this the wrong way, but maybe you should do some research and work on you reading comprehension.
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03-21-2009, 12:43 AM | #46 | |
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the camaro is built on the zetaII platform. it's based on the existing platform, but it has some redesigns and improvements (mainly for conforming to north american safety standards and making manufacturing cheaper, but also to update and tweak the suspension). the camaro has also been under R&D since 2006 when the zeta was fresh off the boards & still needing tweaks. i definitely never said that gm hasn't been making bad decisions in the past that were only worsened by the recession because that's one of the big factors in this mess. many companies have been making bad decisions, and it took the financial problems to really expose them.
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GM shelves Camaro convertible, Z28
Disappointing, but a sign of the times I guess.....
GM shelves Camaro convertible, Z28 4-cylinder engine option is also on hold Jamie LaReau Automotive News March 23, 2009 - 12:01 am ET DETROIT — General Motors has delayed indefinitely the Chevrolet Camaro convertible and Z28 high-performance variant to save cash, sources say. GM also has tabled plans to add a four-cylinder engine version of the Camaro. GM is starting to ship the Camaro to dealers this week. Insiders say executives hope to restore the convertible to GM's product plan. GM originally had wanted to launch a convertible in 2010 and bring out the Z28 soon afterward. "Neither one has been outright canceled," says Terry Rhadigan, a Chevrolet spokesman. Rhadigan said GM will seek to bring out the convertible in 2011. The Z28 was to have challenged two rival performance muscle cars — the Shelby GT500 version of the Ford Mustang and Dodge's Challenger SRT8. Plans for a four-cylinder engine for the Camaro lost appeal as gasoline prices dipped and the Camaro scored well on federal fuel-economy tests. Last year, Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said GM was considering the same four-cylinder engine for the Camaro that GM uses in the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky roadsters. The 2.0-liter turbocharged direct-injection engine is rated at 260 hp in those cars. Gene Stefanyshyn, GM's vehicle line executive for performance cars, said cheaper gasoline played a role in shelving the smaller engine. "We're looking at it. We don't have anything approved," Stefanyshyn said at a press event here last week. "But with gas $1.78 a gallon, we have to weigh where we put our poker chips." Another source familiar with GM product plans confirmed that the four-cylinder for the Camaro is dead for "the time being." Not only have fuel prices leveled out, but GM surpassed its own estimated highway mileage rating of 27 mpg for the V-6 Camaro. The EPA last week rated that vehicle at 29 mpg in highway driving. The strong fuel-economy performance of the 3.6-liter, 304-hp V-6 lessens the need to offer a four-cylinder engine, sources say. GM also offers a 6.2-liter V-8 in two versions, making 400 hp and 426 hp. GM began building the Camaro, which starts at $22,995, including shipping, on Monday, March 16. GM estimates that it will take until May or June to fill the 14,000 sold orders in hand. |
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I know it's disappointing but I think it's a good move.
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IMO theirs no way in hell a 4cyl is gona power a 3500 pound camaro. honestly unless its a twin turbo 4cyl pushen at least 300hp at aint gona do much. but at that hp its even with the v6?? why is gm doing something so stupid. dont invest that money into a 4cyl camaro invest it in a cobalt or something. imo there aint gona be alot of people wanting a 4cyl muscle car.
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03-23-2009, 09:15 AM | #52 |
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The Z28 I knew would be shelved for a while, the convertible I didn't see coming. I wonder how that affects some of the guys that were waiting on the convertible. There were a couple of senior members that I recall.
The 4 cyl. Camaro, yeah great idea when were at $4 per gallon but with the incredible mpg on the V6, no worries on working on that. GM is making smart moves, they need to recover.
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i know there was alot of people that was waiting on the vert. going to be some dissapointed people. wasn't the only dif between the SS and Z28 going to be a supercharger and maybe some wheels or something?
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03-23-2009, 09:52 AM | #54 |
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GM to shelve Z28 and Convertible model!
Not sure if this has been posted yet guys but CRAPOLA!
GM shelves Camaro convertible, Z28 4-cylinder engine option is also on hold Jamie LaReau Automotive News March 23, 2009 - 12:01 am ET DETROIT — General Motors has delayed indefinitely the Chevrolet Camaro convertible and Z28 high-performance variant to save cash, sources say. GM also has tabled plans to add a four-cylinder engine version of the Camaro. GM is starting to ship the Camaro to dealers this week. Insiders say executives hope to restore the convertible to GM's product plan. GM originally had wanted to launch a convertible in 2010 and bring out the Z28 soon afterward. "Neither one has been outright canceled," says Terry Rhadigan, a Chevrolet spokesman. Rhadigan said GM will seek to bring out the convertible in 2011. The Z28 was to have challenged two rival performance muscle cars — the Shelby GT500 version of the Ford Mustang and Dodge's Challenger SRT8. Plans for a four-cylinder engine for the Camaro lost appeal as gasoline prices dipped and the Camaro scored well on federal fuel-economy tests. Last year, Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said GM was considering the same four-cylinder engine for the Camaro that GM uses in the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky roadsters. The 2.0-liter turbocharged direct-injection engine is rated at 260 hp in those cars. Camaro fuel economy ENGINE CITY HIGHWAY V-6 auto. 18 mpg 29 mpg V-6 man. 17 mpg 29 mpg V-8 auto. 16 mpg 25 mpg V-8 man. 16 mpg 24 mpg Source: EPA Gene Stefanyshyn, GM's vehicle line executive for performance cars, said cheaper gasoline played a role in shelving the smaller engine. "We're looking at it. We don't have anything approved," Stefanyshyn said at a press event here last week. "But with gas $1.78 a gallon, we have to weigh where we put our poker chips." Another source familiar with GM product plans confirmed that the four-cylinder for the Camaro is dead for "the time being." Not only have fuel prices leveled out, but GM surpassed its own estimated highway mileage rating of 27 mpg for the V-6 Camaro. The EPA last week rated that vehicle at 29 mpg in highway driving. The strong fuel-economy performance of the 3.6-liter, 304-hp V-6 lessens the need to offer a four-cylinder engine, sources say. GM also offers a 6.2-liter V-8 in two versions, making 400 hp and 426 hp. GM began building the Camaro, which starts at $22,995, including shipping, on Monday, March 16. GM estimates that it will take until May or June to fill the 14,000 sold orders in hand. Richard Truett contributed to this report
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Future of Convertible and Z28
In today's issue of Automotive News...GM says the convertible and Z28 are "Shelved". It mentions the convertible may be built in 2011 but no mention of the future of the Z28.
Read full story here... http://www.corvetteconti.com/blog/?p=6246
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03-23-2009, 12:08 PM | #56 |
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Why... i want a convertible!!! Well, when it does get released, i should be able to pay cash for it!
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