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Old 12-23-2017, 01:42 PM   #1
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Car and Driver history of comparison tests between the Camaro and Mustang

If you have some time to kill, pretty cool list they put together.

https://www.caranddriver.com/flipboo...mag=cdb&dom=fb
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Old 12-24-2017, 12:10 PM   #2
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I think it was HotRod Mag that did the ultimate long block shoot out "could change cam" between the DZ302 and the Boss 302. In the end the Boss had this HUGE 320 degree mechanical cam with 4 autolite down drafts and 7,500 or 8,000 rpm shifting vs a cross ram DZ with a 'mild' 300 duration solid and a "normal 7200 rpm redline. about 475 HP from the DZ and 550 HP from the Boss. It was interesting and back in the day only things like Toyota 2TG twin OHC hemis could do 8,000 rpm... I wish I could remember the exact article.

My older bro loved the Mustang and went as far as building his backyard Boss 302 (4V C heads on a W block). I had a near stock 69 Z/28, not really all that fast with the stock exhaust manifolds. My DD 340 Dart was easily quicker, faster and easier to drive.

Back then if you really wanted something fast you DiY. Sure there were some factory parts but outside of Mopar's Direct Connection, aftermarket stuff was cheaper and better.

IMO, Chevy has dominated for the same reasons I see today. For instance any chepo Chevy 350 could be built from a 2 bolt main block with plain heads making decent HP, many had steel cranks like most trucks. For Ford, you want a steel crank? well you buy a Boss. You want heads that can breath you need a Cleveland. You a decent C6 trans, once again had to look for a performance model.

Take the LS1 Camaro, same engine as the Vette, Ford you had 4.6 GT, Cobra, 5.4 Cobra R, it was just mind numbing. Once again ANY SS had the same engine.

Same thing now. My SS1 was 32K out the door. No matter how much you pay for a SS it has the SAME engine, trans, and base brakes (still very good) etc. Seems like Ford you once again have base, PP1, PP2, 350 twins, dunno. Alls I know is the 19K that I "saved" over a Mustang with PP2, I could buy: heads, cam, wheel tire combo, shafts, and a high mile F-150 with trailer. To me I love the flatplain 5.2, I even looked into buying a 350. But I felt like the TWICE the price of a SS for an engine that really cost maybe a few hunred bucks more to make is a fool's errand. Chevy just says power to the plebs. That me.
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