Cam install - Page 2

oldman · 01-14-2018, 04:46 PM

The heads are off. Notes:
1) better have a 13mm hex drive, cause my inclusive set did not. 1/2 drive IMO
2) selection of 3/8 extensions and whobbles will make life easier
3) drain coolant before hand, cause I could not find the drain cock from the top
4) uncap the headers or the head bolts can't come out (header in the way)
5) there is not one but TWO ground straps in back of the driver's side head
Notes on head:
Intake port is really tall, means flow.
Exhaust port is hideous. If I did not already have headers I would be looking at Victor JR heads and Kooks headers for it. LOL

Looking at it I'm going to pull the short block and trans from the top.

Dubchitts · 01-14-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

The heads are off. Notes:
1) better have a 13mm hex drive, cause my inclusive set did not. 1/2 drive IMO
2) selection of 3/8 extensions and whobbles will make life easier
3) drain coolant before hand, cause I could not find the drain cock from the top
4) uncap the headers or the head bolts can't come out (header in the way)
5) there is not one but TWO ground straps in back of the driver's side head
Notes on head:
Intake port is really tall, means flow.
Exhaust port is hideous. If I did not already have headers I would be looking at Victor JR heads and Kooks headers for it. LOL

Looking at it I'm going to pull the short block and trans from the top.

That 13mm Allen socket is hard to find. O Rielys was the only one to have it near me

Daniel_94kg · 02-12-2018, 04:27 AM

When reinstalling the rocker arms, is there any valve lash adjustment? Specific order of tightening them down? Do they just get torqued down? It’s been a while since I’ve done a cam on a car and I’m not familiar with this engine.

Chevy71 · 02-12-2018, 07:45 AM

Decent write up man, especially for a guy who doesn't do this stuff all the time. I did mine in the car and didn't do near as many steps. Just watch that chain, if it falls off you are screwed haha. I use to do this daily for work, and still do it on a pretty regular basis though. Like you said, there is always more than one way to do any given job. What cam did you go with and what do you think of the performance you got?

Chevy71 · 02-12-2018, 07:59 AM

Here are some pics of mine still in frame;

Dubchitts · 02-13-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel_94kg

When reinstalling the rocker arms, is there any valve lash adjustment? Specific order of tightening them down? Do they just get torqued down? It’s been a while since I’ve done a cam on a car and I’m not familiar with this engine.

Torque them down when they are on the base circle. 24ft lbs iirc

Dubchitts · 02-13-2018, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy71

Decent write up man, especially for a guy who doesn't do this stuff all the time. I did mine in the car and didn't do near as many steps. Just watch that chain, if it falls off you are screwed haha. I use to do this daily for work, and still do it on a pretty regular basis though. Like you said, there is always more than one way to do any given job. What cam did you go with and what do you think of the performance you got?

Thanks! I went with Pray stage 1 cam and ported heads. Performance wise I have no idea yet. I have yet to fire it. I don't want it's first start to be Sub zero temps. Lol

Chevy71 · 02-15-2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubchitts

Thanks! I went with Pray stage 1 cam and ported heads. Performance wise I have no idea yet. I have yet to fire it. I don't want it's first start to be Sub zero temps. Lol

Probably not a bad idea! What do you have for a tune?

Dubchitts · 02-15-2018, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy71

Probably not a bad idea! What do you have for a tune?

I'm going to go with Pray. That way he'll have a pretty close tune for it right away. Hopefully minimizing the fine tuning

Dubchitts · 04-27-2018, 09:39 AM

Edited step 28. Trans removal

JCunningham · 04-28-2018, 08:23 AM

you have to be on the base circle of the cam befor you torque the rockers down or your torque will be off because your compressing the valve spring

teesee150 · 04-29-2018, 08:17 AM

For those that have a lift, it is MUCH easier to just drop the entire front cradle with engine/trans attached then trying to pull the engine out the top.

MP3BOOSTED · 10-12-2019, 04:29 PM

So I’m pulling the motor now for the first time to do a forged internal build. I’m going to leave the transmission in the car unless there is a crazy reason why I shouldn’t, any issues with pulling the motor and letting the transmission there? I’m not touching the transmission mount, any ideas?

Dubchitts · 11-19-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MP3BOOSTED

So I’m pulling the motor now for the first time to do a forged internal build. I’m going to leave the transmission in the car unless there is a crazy reason why I shouldn’t, any issues with pulling the motor and letting the transmission there? I’m not touching the transmission mount, any ideas?

Never got notified of the posts. I'm sure by now you figured out you have to undo the mount. If going out the top, loosen the cradle bolts a little and it will give you the space to separate the motor from the transmission. I never thought about that during mine and that's why I pulled both on such a crazy angle. Otherwise the oil pan would hit on the thin aluminum cross member and you couldn't get off the input shaft

01-14-2018, 04:46 PM	#15
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,316	The heads are off. Notes: 1) better have a 13mm hex drive, cause my inclusive set did not. 1/2 drive IMO 2) selection of 3/8 extensions and whobbles will make life easier 3) drain coolant before hand, cause I could not find the drain cock from the top 4) uncap the headers or the head bolts can't come out (header in the way) 5) there is not one but TWO ground straps in back of the driver's side head Notes on head: Intake port is really tall, means flow. Exhaust port is hideous. If I did not already have headers I would be looking at Victor JR heads and Kooks headers for it. LOL Looking at it I'm going to pull the short block and trans from the top. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

02-12-2018, 04:27 AM	#17
Daniel_94kg Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE - Krypton Green Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23	When reinstalling the rocker arms, is there any valve lash adjustment? Specific order of tightening them down? Do they just get torqued down? It’s been a while since I’ve done a cam on a car and I’m not familiar with this engine. __________________ '17 Camaro SS 1LE - Krypton Green YouTube Channel - Subscribe! Instagram - Regular_Guy_Garage

02-12-2018, 07:45 AM	#18
Chevy71 Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 977 View My Garage	Decent write up man, especially for a guy who doesn't do this stuff all the time. I did mine in the car and didn't do near as many steps. Just watch that chain, if it falls off you are screwed haha. I use to do this daily for work, and still do it on a pretty regular basis though. Like you said, there is always more than one way to do any given job. What cam did you go with and what do you think of the performance you got? __________________ 2016 2SS/Hyper Blue/M6/NPP/Navi Forged pistons Custom cut Brian Tooley Cam SW long tube headers 3" stainless mid pipe - Secondary Cat delete - High flow cats Port and polished heads-Double valve springs-platinum lifters & push rods Cam phaser limiter - DOD delete P1SC-1 Pro Charger 3.7 pulley Stage II intercooler 667rwhp 577ft lbs Last edited by Chevy71; 02-12-2018 at 07:57 AM.

02-12-2018, 07:59 AM	#19
Chevy71 Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 977 View My Garage	Here are some pics of mine still in frame; Attached Images __________________ 2016 2SS/Hyper Blue/M6/NPP/Navi Forged pistons Custom cut Brian Tooley Cam SW long tube headers 3" stainless mid pipe - Secondary Cat delete - High flow cats Port and polished heads-Double valve springs-platinum lifters & push rods Cam phaser limiter - DOD delete P1SC-1 Pro Charger 3.7 pulley Stage II intercooler 667rwhp 577ft lbs

04-27-2018, 09:39 AM	#24
Dubchitts Drives: '17 Red hot 2ss, 16 Focus RS Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 845 View My Garage	Edited step 28. Trans removal __________________ "Spitfire" 427ci 2017 Red Hot 2SS// 6 Piston Brembos//Adrenaline Red Interior, Knee Pads//M6//MRC Afe Air Filter//BMR MM010 Motor Mounts, Safety Loop//Custom OTR Intake//Flex Fuel Kit//Gforce 3.5" Aluminum Driveshaft//GM 95mm TB//Katech Oil Pump, Piston Squirters//Kooks 1-7/8 LT//LT4 Fueling//Mighty Mouse Wild//Monster Clutch LT1-S Triple Disc//MSD 2-Step//Pray Performance Custom Spec Cam, Ported Holley Hi-Ram//Sikky 12" Shifter w OEM Knob Mod//Tick Level 1 Tr6060//Labor by Me//Tune By Pray Performance

04-28-2018, 08:23 AM	#25
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	you have to be on the base circle of the cam befor you torque the rockers down or your torque will be off because your compressing the valve spring __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

04-29-2018, 08:17 AM	#26
teesee150 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 107	For those that have a lift, it is MUCH easier to just drop the entire front cradle with engine/trans attached then trying to pull the engine out the top.

10-12-2019, 04:29 PM	#27
MP3BOOSTED Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE (F1A-94 FBO H/C) Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 843	So I’m pulling the motor now for the first time to do a forged internal build. I’m going to leave the transmission in the car unless there is a crazy reason why I shouldn’t, any issues with pulling the motor and letting the transmission there? I’m not touching the transmission mount, any ideas? __________________ Performance Mods: F1A-94, DSX Flex Fuel Kit, MSD Spark Plug Wires, KOOK 2" off road headers, MBRP Race catback exhaust, Pray Performance Custom Boost Cam, Rocker Arm Trunion Upgrade Kit, 7.850" Hardened Chromemoly Length Pushrods and Johnson Racing 2110R Lifters, TSP CNC'd Heads, Ported MSD intake manifold, 103mm Katech Throttle body, Forged Pistons/Rods, RPM Meth kit, DSX Aux Fuel system, AEM Failsafe and banks gauge, LT4 HPFP, LT4 injectors, BMR motor mounts, Hurst Short Throw, Manley SS exhaust valves Videos of my car? Check here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNi...Qy1OL4NVGlPogw

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