ZL1 vs Hellcat - Page 28

newmoon · 05-11-2016, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

10.7 in the 1/4? I just don't see it being that fast. Depending on the final HP figure. I would guess low 11's. We will see

With a great driver, track prep, and negative DA I agree low 11s which will be great, possibly a 10:90s. Will we see claims of mid-high 10s claiming to be stock but actually sporting race only tunes for 107 octane, exhaust mods, and hidden weight reduction yep. Just like the Hellcat early on running 10:40s and 5-7 mph faster than anyone else

Jeffro19 · 05-11-2016, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

With a great driver, track prep, and negative DA I agree low 11s which will be great, possibly a 10:90s. Will we see claims of mid-high 10s claiming to be stock but actually sporting race only tunes for 107 octane, exhaust mods, and hidden weight reduction yep. Just like the Hellcat early on running 10:40s and 5-7 mph faster than anyone else

I agree with you. A showroom stock ZL1 may have some hero runs in the high 10's and very low 11's. Most will be around the 11.5 or 11.4 times. Which is damn quick by the way.

Raven87 · 05-11-2016, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

I agree with you. A showroom stock ZL1 may have some hero runs in the high 10's and very low 11's. Most will be around the 11.5 or 11.4 times. Which is damn quick by the way.

And I would bet most average-joe drivers will be lucky to get their shiny new ZL1 out of the 12's. A lot of people THINK they know how to drag race but when they get to the strip and see that it is a lot more than they realize (especially if they have a manual trans), they will be very surprised.

Just go to the drags and watch the guys with 11 second capable cars that can barely get a mid or upper 12. I've seen Gen V Viper's running 13s, etc.

It's hilarious.

Jeffro19 · 05-11-2016, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven87

And I would bet most average-joe drivers will be lucky to get their shiny new ZL1 out of the 12's. A lot of people THINK they know how to drag race but when they get to the strip and see that it is a lot more than they realize (especially if they have a manual trans), they will be very surprised.

Just go to the drags and watch the guys with 11 second capable cars that can barely get a mid or upper 12. I've seen Gen V Viper's running 13s, etc.

It's hilarious.

Yep its tougher than you think.

*007 · 05-11-2016, 09:06 AM

And that is the rub... the HC can pull some decent times even with the inexperienced driver. It is true though, the skill required to perform at peak.

SuperSound · 05-11-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by *007

And that is the rub... the HC can pull some decent times even with the inexperienced driver. It is true though, the skill required to perform at peak.

More like the opposite. YouTube is full of terrible runs from people who thought they could mash and go. No one has described launching the Hellcat as user friendly.

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96MrBass · 05-11-2016, 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=newmoon;9085389]With a great driver, track prep, and negative DA I agree low 11s which will be great, possibly a 10:90s. Will we see claims of mid-high 10s claiming to be stock but actually sporting race only tunes for 107 octane, exhaust mods, and hidden weight reduction yep. Just like the Hellcat early on running 10:40s and 5-7 mph faster than anyone else

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Wouldn't you think mid 11's would be a disappointed considering some 6gens have run high 11's already? I also wouldn't say that we've seen a "hero run" out of the SS yet either. Imo the ZL1 only being 3 or 4 tenths quicker would be a let down.

*007 · 05-11-2016, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

With a great driver, track prep, and negative DA I agree low 11s which will be great, possibly a 10:90s. Will we see claims of mid-high 10s claiming to be stock but actually sporting race only tunes for 107 octane, exhaust mods, and hidden weight reduction yep. Just like the Hellcat early on running 10:40s and 5-7 mph faster than anyone else

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Wouldn't you think mid 11's would be a disappointed considering some 6gens have run high 11's already? I also wouldn't say that we've seen a "hero run" out of the SS yet either. Imo the ZL1 only being 3 or 4 tenths quicker would be a let down.

We need consistent winner vs HC. After all, what else could "Camaro vs Everybody" mean? Everybody except HC? I hope not!!!

Snowblind · 05-11-2016, 10:54 PM

11.0X @ 125 showroom stock with favorable DA and a good driver.

Auto of course

17 White ZL1 · 05-12-2016, 04:00 AM

High 10's with upper 600hp. For sure with a set of MT Street R's

The HC is not easy to launch with stock tires at all but will hook with good DR

newmoon · 05-12-2016, 07:03 AM

[QUOTE=96MrBass;9086862]

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Originally Posted by newmoon

With a great driver, track prep, and negative DA I agree low 11s which will be great, possibly a 10:90s. Will we see claims of mid-high 10s claiming to be stock but actually sporting race only tunes for 107 octane, exhaust mods, and hidden weight reduction yep. Just like the Hellcat early on running 10:40s and 5-7 mph faster than anyone else

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Wouldn't you think mid 11's would be a disappointed considering some 6gens have run high 11's already? I also wouldn't say that we've seen a "hero run" out of the SS yet either. Imo the ZL1 only being 3 or 4 tenths quicker would be a let down.

Are we talking averages or hero runs? The average SS run is probably 12:20s-12:40s, if the average ZL1 runs are 11:20s - 11:40s that is a full second which is eternity on the dragstrip. If we consider hero runs 11:90s for the SS and 10:90s for the ZL1 it is still a full second. Where is the dissapointment?

FINALLYSATISFIED · 05-16-2016, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 17 White ZL1

High 10's with upper 600hp. For sure with a set of MT Street R's

The HC is not easy to launch with stock tires at all but will hook with good DR

OEM stock tires spin a bit and I had the Summer tires which were to too bad. I just installed 305/35/20 Nitto 555r on the rears only on mine and they hook. The stock OEM stay on the front. Should have came this way from factory.

17 White ZL1 · 05-16-2016, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED

OEM stock tires spin a bit and I had the Summer tires which were to too bad. I just installed 305/35/20 Nitto 555r on the rears only on mine and they hook. The stock OEM stay on the front. Should have came this way from factory.

My friend had Nitto 555R on his cat and when we switched to the MT Street SS it hooked way better than the Nittos on stock 20" wheels

BahamaTodd · 05-16-2016, 02:25 PM

Well here's what a 750hp manual can do against a Hellcat. We'll see what the ZL1 can do down 100 hp and with the A10.

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96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	[QUOTE=newmoon;9085389]With a great driver, track prep, and negative DA I agree low 11s which will be great, possibly a 10:90s. Will we see claims of mid-high 10s claiming to be stock but actually sporting race only tunes for 107 octane, exhaust mods, and hidden weight reduction yep. Just like the Hellcat early on running 10:40s and 5-7 mph faster than anyone else [/QUOTE Wouldn't you think mid 11's would be a disappointed considering some 6gens have run high 11's already? I also wouldn't say that we've seen a "hero run" out of the SS yet either. Imo the ZL1 only being 3 or 4 tenths quicker would be a let down. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

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Snowblind Drives: '16 2SS / '05 SRT10 Ram / '65 bu Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Philthy Posts: 978	11.0X @ 125 showroom stock with favorable DA and a good driver. Auto of course __________________ H/C SBE 9.80@140 powered by Texas Speed

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17 White ZL1 Drives: 2017 White ZL1 A10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: SoCal Posts: 171	High 10's with upper 600hp. For sure with a set of MT Street R's The HC is not easy to launch with stock tires at all but will hook with good DR

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