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Old 12-14-2017, 10:19 AM   #71
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Laguna seca
SS 1 LE 1:37.78 (Randy Probst)
Z/28 1:37.82 (Randy Probst)

Same track, same driver. Looks like the extra hp of the Z didn’t help at all
That’s exactly the two I wanted brought into this conversation
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:27 AM   #72
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The Z28 is 505 horsepower. The Gen 6 1LE is 450 horsepower.

End of story.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:12 PM   #73
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Laguna seca
SS 1 LE 1:37.78 (Randy Probst)
Z/28 1:37.82 (Randy Probst)

Same track, same driver. Looks like the extra hp of the Z didn’t help at all
Same track, same driver, different days.... this isn't an apples to apples comparison as Randy has plenty of same track, same car, different days and as a result dramatically different lap times.

Take the last Viper ACR and the different lap times Randy has gotten there with the same car.

1:28.65
1:31.58

Randy has even run the C7 Z06 there a few times getting lap times that are a few seconds apart as well.
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:31 PM   #74
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Oil coolers don't help in a steady state high G turn. That said, we like oil coolers.

http://www.jpssonline.com/p-21-camar...r-by-jpss.aspx

Boiling oil provides less protection. Dry dump is great, however while tracking a car, the difference in damage between of dry sump/reg would be impossible to quantify. Many missed shifts, over revving serves more damage.
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Old 12-14-2017, 01:36 PM   #75
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Same track, same driver, different days.... this isn't an apples to apples comparison as Randy has plenty of same track, same car, different days and as a result dramatically different lap times.

Take the last Viper ACR and the different lap times Randy has gotten there with the same car.

1:28.65
1:31.58

Randy has even run the C7 Z06 there a few times getting lap times that are a few seconds apart as well.
Getting technical now. It is almost comical. Everyone’s interpretation is different. Have you had the pleasure of visiting Laguna Seca? Do you know the dew point and humidity averages?

Growing up next to that track I will tell you the temperature is always 60-80 degrees year round. My purpose to post referenced track times were to prove the 1LE is as capable as the Z.

We all know original owners of the Z have a special car. I find it interesting and exciting chevrolet continues to research and develop to improve on the past.
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:07 PM   #76
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Getting technical now. It is almost comical. Everyone’s interpretation is different. Have you had the pleasure of visiting Laguna Seca? Do you know the dew point and humidity averages?

Growing up next to that track I will tell you the temperature is always 60-80 degrees year round. My purpose to post referenced track times were to prove the 1LE is as capable as the Z.

We all know original owners of the Z have a special car. I find it interesting and exciting chevrolet continues to research and develop to improve on the past.
That's the way I see it. A newer Camaro, at nearly half the price, can do what the Z/28 can do more comfortably.
One is a car designed to conquer the track, no excuses, but can also be driven on the street. The other is a street car that just so happens to be able to do to a track what the Z could, with less effort.

The Z needed more power, better brakes, race inspired suspension, basically all GM had to offer thrown at it to do what it does. The 1LE is a 1SS with some tweaks.


In other words, a sixth gen Z/28 would make the fifth gen Z/28 seem old, and slow.
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:26 PM   #77
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Really?
I thought the Z/28 had carbon ceramic brake rotors.
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:28 PM   #78
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Run the Z/28 and the 6th Gen SS 1LE for an hour and let me know which car is faster. No need, I already know. The question I would like answered is run for an hour, is a ZLE or Z/28 faster? I can think that one into circles.
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:29 PM   #79
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The Z28 is 505 horsepower. The Gen 6 1LE is 450 horsepower.

End of story.
Nice logic. We should all go get Hellcats since they have 707 HP.

Guess which one of these is faster?





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Old 12-14-2017, 04:30 PM   #80
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Nice logic. We should all go get Demons since they have 840 HP.
Fixed that for you.
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Old 12-14-2017, 04:43 PM   #81
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The Z28 is 505 horsepower. The Gen 6 1LE is 450 horsepower.

End of story.
Look how much faster it was down the straight too! Oh wait.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:12 PM   #83
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Laguna seca
SS 1 LE 1:37.78 (Randy Probst)
Z/28 1:37.82 (Randy Probst)

Same track, same driver. Looks like the extra hp of the Z didn’t help at all
Wasn't the z28 4 seconds faster at VIR than the 1le?
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:15 PM   #84
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Run the Z/28 and the 6th Gen SS 1LE for an hour and let me know which car is faster. No need, I already know. The question I would like answered is run for an hour, is a ZLE or Z/28 faster? I can think that one into circles.
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