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All fun info, but meaningless. All this anxiety over sales, for better or worse is having Zero effect on anything. Panic over the need to expand it's appeal, change it's design, price, etc., etc., is all based on zero facts and mere fantasy expertise. The Camaro is what it is. |
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None of these cars are high volume models. During the 5th gen years only 6 times did either the Mustang or Camaro sell 10K or more units. 7K is a solid number for even during those years. The Mustang averages about 5% or less of Ford's sales each month. That is the definition of low volume model.
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Reality check: Camaro and Mustang are neck and neck in retail sales, and crusty Challenger way back in third. Rental car anyone? We got Mustangs and Challengers. Quote:
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Can we get a screenshot of the data? Any information they publish should have sources cited on how their data was collected. What is it? Do I really care if the number truly is 30%? Nahh, doesn't bother me. Without sources we can see however, those numbers are meaningless. |
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Better quality? Arguable to say the least. Funny, out of all the rental pics...you show the one next to the Maserati. If you're going to put it down, you need to at least show it next to an econbox! |
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He already did. This must be thePill's offspring.
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You seem to doubt the numbers, so why don't you post some facts that dispute his findings. Otherwise give it a rest. This is a Camaro site.
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You are missing my point a bit. If this was posted on any other forum, I would be scruitinizing it the same. Here is my point... Take a look at what I found on the same site.... 2017 Retail ATP's YTD (KBB KarPower) Camaro: 38,861 Challenger: 36,958 Mustang: 35,755 2017 Fleet Sale % YTD Camaro: 31% Challenger: 36% Mustang: 2% 2017 Retail Sales YTD Mustang: 15,501 Camaro: 14,992 Challenger: 10,064 Here i my source, try to debunk it. http://www.karpower.com/Marketing/index.aspx |
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Powertrain Quality - Design Tie Overall Quality - Mechanical Camaro Powertrain Quality - Mechanical Mustang Body & Interior Quality - Design Mustang Features & Accessories Quality - Design Mustang Overall Quality Tie Features & Accessories Quality - Mechanical Camaro Body & Interior Quality - Mechanical Camaro Overall Quality - Design Mustang Looks fairly even to me. http://www.jdpower.com/cars/Ford/Mustang/2016 http://www.jdpower.com/cars/Chevrolet/Camaro/2016 |
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Those figures (the real ones that MEDISIN posted), jive with what we've been hearing for over a year. For the record, I am just as interested in reading it from the source direct, as you seem to be...but since I can't...I take it for what it's worth... Quote:
They even developed a Hertz special edition Mustang and hung it on the wall at 2016 NYIAS. |
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