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Snakedriver · 08-13-2013, 08:09 PM

Looks like Dodge may bring a 640HP Challenger for 2015.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...lcat-spy-shots

Al C. · 08-13-2013, 08:10 PM

Old news

LuckyZL-1 · 08-13-2013, 08:42 PM

Yea all the billy goat fans at work keep me telling to just wait till it gets here and it is gonna smoke my Camaro. Yea yea I tell them Ill ready and waiting! Like their current tubs can't hang!

qniknam · 08-14-2013, 12:41 AM

Lol dude you're talking mad shit hahahaha SRT makes really awesome cars, personally between the SRT's and the ZL1 that I finally got again today. I'm a happy camper.

supercharged zl1 · 08-14-2013, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by qniknam

Lol dude you're talking mad shit hahahaha SRT makes really awesome cars, personally between the SRT's and the ZL1 that I finally got again today. I'm a happy camper.

I like the challenger can't wait see the hellcat.

qniknam · 08-14-2013, 12:58 AM

I can't wait to see the redesigned Challenger with the Hellcat the new interior should be delicious! I'll post pics of my new ZL1 tomorrow when i pick it up from the dealer. I was driving down the road and im on vacation I saw it, and stopped and said I wanted they cooked me a deal I cant refuse.

supercharged zl1 · 08-14-2013, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by qniknam

I can't wait to see the redesigned Challenger with the Hellcat the new interior should be delicious! I'll post pics of my new ZL1 tomorrow when i pick it up from the dealer. I was driving down the road and im on vacation I saw it, and stopped and said I wanted they cooked me a deal I cant refuse.

LuckyZL-1 · 08-14-2013, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by qniknam

Lol dude you're talking mad shit hahahaha SRT makes really awesome cars, personally between the SRT's and the ZL1 that I finally got again today. I'm a happy camper.

I have to because I'm surrounded by dodges and mustangs at work I'm the only Chevy. Cool thing is I'm the Boss and their cars can't keep up. Yet! So until then I got the big cojones and get to smack talk!
That's why I bought my ZL-1 took it to ADM got me a 800hp package then brought it to work and did a burn out across the entire parking lot in front of them and said "what's up now?" and there was silence!!

Snakedriver · 08-14-2013, 10:52 AM

The ZL1 and the challenger SRT8 weigh about the same so the Hellcat should have 70 more HP and an 8 speed auto trans so it should be faster in the quarter than the ZL1.

Whos_Drivin · 08-14-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakedriver

The ZL1 and the challenger SRT8 weigh about the same so the Hellcat should have 70 more HP and an 8 speed auto trans so it should be faster in the quarter than the ZL1.

The srt8 is already 50 lbs more than the ZL1. Adding 170 hp to the srt8 plus beefing up the drivetrain and suspension to match the ZL1 will negate those 70 horses real quick. No doubt it will be a beast, but it needs even more of a diet than our porkers...

newmoon · 08-14-2013, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Whos_Drivin

The srt8 is already 50 lbs more than the ZL1. Adding 170 hp to the srt8 plus beefing up the drivetrain and suspension to match the ZL1 will negate those 70 horses real quick. No doubt it will be a beast, but it needs even more of a diet than our porkers...

100 lb. difference is not going to matter much once you break the 4k mark. When you consider the present version at 470hp is capable of low 12s, this new SC Challenger should rip mid 11s on factory rubber in the automatic version

jessrayo · 08-14-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakedriver

The ZL1 and the challenger SRT8 weigh about the same so the Hellcat should have 70 more HP and an 8 speed auto trans so it should be faster in the quarter than the ZL1.

The stock Hellcat may be faster than a stock ZL1 in the quarter. Lets face it, GM has a way bigger performance aftermarket than any other manufacturer period. You MIGHT be able to get that Challenger to run with Lucky's ZL1 but you are going to have to have to look far and wide for a competent mechanic and then sink twice the money that Lucky has in his car. Then as soon as the cars hit the first corner the Camaro will run away from it.

I like the SRT's but the cars don't have the potential the Zl1 has.

JWR046 · 08-14-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

100 lb. difference is not going to matter much once you break the 4k mark. When you consider the present version at 470hp is capable of low 12s, this new SC Challenger should rip mid 11s on factory rubber in the automatic version

should rip if it can get traction and has a competent driver.

*radz28* · 08-14-2013, 12:16 PM

Hellcat vs ZL1 should be interesting, however, the article referenced Z/28, didn't it? That would be an interesting match-up, but ZL1 makes more sense, IMO.

I haven't changed my mind in believing ZL1 needs some more power, but it's not like it is that hard getting more through the aftermarket. I think that Challenger better have the chassis sorted, because ZL1 does pretty well stacked against a more powerful and lighter GT500. SRT means business, however, a car with monster power doesn't always make it faster if it can't use it.

08-13-2013, 08:09 PM	#1
Snakedriver Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 288	ZL1 Versus The Hellcat Looks like Dodge may bring a 640HP Challenger for 2015. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...lcat-spy-shots

08-13-2013, 08:42 PM	#3
LuckyZL-1 Ragtop Rocket!!! Drives: Black on Black Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 809	Yea all the billy goat fans at work keep me telling to just wait till it gets here and it is gonna smoke my Camaro. Yea yea I tell them Ill ready and waiting! Like their current tubs can't hang! __________________ ADM built 2013 Triple Black ZL-1 Convertible M6 ADM custom cam, LPE stage 2 heads with dual valve springs, LS-3 ported throttle body, LPE 2 piece pulley, LPE overdrive balancer, 10% overdrive pulley, ported supercharger inlet, ADM race intake system, stainless works 1-7/8 headers, Injector Dynamics injectors, ADM heat exchanger, ADM dual fuel pump system, ADM exhaust switch, ADM 3 tunes tuning package. 744rwhp 727rwtq

08-14-2013, 12:16 PM	#14
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	Hellcat vs ZL1 should be interesting, however, the article referenced Z/28, didn't it? That would be an interesting match-up, but ZL1 makes more sense, IMO. I haven't changed my mind in believing ZL1 needs some more power, but it's not like it is that hard getting more through the aftermarket. I think that Challenger better have the chassis sorted, because ZL1 does pretty well stacked against a more powerful and lighter GT500. SRT means business, however, a car with monster power doesn't always make it faster if it can't use it. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-13-2013, 08:10 PM	#2
Al C. Drives: ZL1 #529 "El-Jefe" Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 668	Old news

08-14-2013, 12:41 AM	#4
qniknam Account Suspended Drives: 13 ZL1 \| 13 SRT GC \| 13 SRT CHARGER Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 254	Lol dude you're talking mad shit hahahaha SRT makes really awesome cars, personally between the SRT's and the ZL1 that I finally got again today. I'm a happy camper.

08-14-2013, 12:58 AM	#6
qniknam Account Suspended Drives: 13 ZL1 \| 13 SRT GC \| 13 SRT CHARGER Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 254	I can't wait to see the redesigned Challenger with the Hellcat the new interior should be delicious! I'll post pics of my new ZL1 tomorrow when i pick it up from the dealer. I was driving down the road and im on vacation I saw it, and stopped and said I wanted they cooked me a deal I cant refuse.

08-14-2013, 10:52 AM	#9
Snakedriver Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 288	The ZL1 and the challenger SRT8 weigh about the same so the Hellcat should have 70 more HP and an 8 speed auto trans so it should be faster in the quarter than the ZL1.