Best cam option?

OneDarkSS · 12-11-2017, 02:19 AM

So I've pretty much narrowed down my next mod to be the heads and cam package along with the DOD kit from TSP.

The only decision I'm stuck at is whether to go with their VVT-SV cam that specs at 223/227 with .635"/.635" lift and 116 LSA, or their VVT-1 cam that specs at 227/231 with .635/.635 lift 116 LSA.

I do plan on keeping my stock stall converter and I'm aware that is what TSP recommends the VVT-SV for, but is it possible for me to go with the VVT-1 and retain good drivability? Would I see better performance gains as far as horsepower and torque being that the VVT-1 is a slightly more aggresive cam profile? My car has the bolt ons necessary to compliment the cam and heads package at this point.

I just joined up with this forum and I appreciate any advice you guys can spare! Thanks!

DFW1LE · 12-11-2017, 09:01 AM

Have you posed that question to TSP? Both cams look pretty mild and I would not think the VVT-1 would cause problems.

KingLT1 · 12-11-2017, 09:30 AM

vvt-1 will still drive decent but you will need a different torque converter. That will add another 1200.00 to bill not including installation. The stage 1 219 to 223 range cams still work with the stock converter. I would contact pray about his stage 1 with his ported heads. That will put you around 550whp with great street manners.

OneDarkSS · 12-11-2017, 02:28 PM

Alright guys thanks for the input, appreciated. Anyone else feel free to chime in.

BradfordCamaro · 12-11-2017, 04:36 PM

Well.
The Duration and Lift are Advertised Numbers. Kinda "Generic" so people can pick a Cam by looking at numbers without getting confused.
Just like calling them stage 1, Stage 2 etc. Just terms used to market Camshafts.

What makes the Cams work are the fancy numbers on the Cam Card. Such as Valve events. My Cam is 223/228 @ 114 LSA .604 lift. And it shakes the car and rumbles.
My Cam opens the valves early. I get great Torque though. Spin the tires starting in 2nd gear.

.635 Lift?? Why? Too much.

OneDarkSS · 12-11-2017, 04:58 PM

Car sounds dope man!

Thanks for the info, yeah I’ve been aware that the advertised numbers are mostly a selling point to consumers.

I just wanted to get opinions on what cam between the two I mentioned in my original post would give me the best results horse and torque wise across the band while still maintaining street drivability

MY 19 Z · 12-11-2017, 06:51 PM

I am not an expert on cam and valve events but as a long time watcher of what Pray
Has developed. I will be hitting him up for my heads and Cam combo.
Look him up, read his Posts. Send him a PM with what your looking for.
I bet you will be happy with the end results.

Just my .02

jw0287 · 12-12-2017, 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=BradfordCamaro;10006145]Well.
The Duration and Lift are Advertised Numbers. Kinda "Generic" so people can pick a Cam by looking at numbers without getting confused.
Just like calling them stage 1, Stage 2 etc. Just terms used to market Camshafts.

What makes the Cams work are the fancy numbers on the Cam Card. Such as Valve events. My Cam is 223/228 @ 114 LSA .604 lift. And it shakes the car and rumbles.
My Cam opens the valves early. I get great Torque though. Spin the tires starting

Sounds great.

I’d check out Pray. At least ask a question or two for your cam needs.

12-11-2017, 02:19 AM	#1
OneDarkSS Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 8 View My Garage	Best cam option? So I've pretty much narrowed down my next mod to be the heads and cam package along with the DOD kit from TSP. The only decision I'm stuck at is whether to go with their VVT-SV cam that specs at 223/227 with .635"/.635" lift and 116 LSA, or their VVT-1 cam that specs at 227/231 with .635/.635 lift 116 LSA. I do plan on keeping my stock stall converter and I'm aware that is what TSP recommends the VVT-SV for, but is it possible for me to go with the VVT-1 and retain good drivability? Would I see better performance gains as far as horsepower and torque being that the VVT-1 is a slightly more aggresive cam profile? My car has the bolt ons necessary to compliment the cam and heads package at this point. I just joined up with this forum and I appreciate any advice you guys can spare! Thanks! __________________

12-11-2017, 09:01 AM	#2
DFW1LE Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Mosiac Black Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 1,132	Have you posed that question to TSP? Both cams look pretty mild and I would not think the VVT-1 would cause problems. __________________ ________________________________________________ Frankenstein Engineering Dynamics Stage 1 H/C/E85 536HP/488TQ

12-11-2017, 09:30 AM	#3
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,795	vvt-1 will still drive decent but you will need a different torque converter. That will add another 1200.00 to bill not including installation. The stage 1 219 to 223 range cams still work with the stock converter. I would contact pray about his stage 1 with his ported heads. That will put you around 550whp with great street manners. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

12-11-2017, 02:28 PM	#4
OneDarkSS Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 8 View My Garage	Alright guys thanks for the input, appreciated. Anyone else feel free to chime in. __________________

12-11-2017, 04:58 PM	#6
OneDarkSS Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 8 View My Garage	Car sounds dope man! Thanks for the info, yeah I’ve been aware that the advertised numbers are mostly a selling point to consumers. I just wanted to get opinions on what cam between the two I mentioned in my original post would give me the best results horse and torque wise across the band while still maintaining street drivability __________________

12-11-2017, 06:51 PM	#7
MY 19 Z Drives: 98 S10 LS1 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8	I am not an expert on cam and valve events but as a long time watcher of what Pray Has developed. I will be hitting him up for my heads and Cam combo. Look him up, read his Posts. Send him a PM with what your looking for. I bet you will be happy with the end results. Just my .02

12-12-2017, 01:04 PM	#8
jw0287 Drives: 2016 1SS NPP Black on Black Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 101	[QUOTE=BradfordCamaro;10006145]Well. The Duration and Lift are Advertised Numbers. Kinda "Generic" so people can pick a Cam by looking at numbers without getting confused. Just like calling them stage 1, Stage 2 etc. Just terms used to market Camshafts. What makes the Cams work are the fancy numbers on the Cam Card. Such as Valve events. My Cam is 223/228 @ 114 LSA .604 lift. And it shakes the car and rumbles. My Cam opens the valves early. I get great Torque though. Spin the tires starting Sounds great. I’d check out Pray. At least ask a question or two for your cam needs.

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