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Old 10-19-2017, 11:52 PM   #29
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750 if that many are even ordered, the ZL1 1LE is for a unique buyer. Most people want the A10 and will go with the stock ZL1.

I have 1 of 3 ZL1 1LE's in the whole socal area.
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How are you defining socal?
I'll be 1 out of my guess 5 sold in So.Cal. TPW 10/23

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Seems odd that roughly 5,000 GT350s are made each year and they still have markups, while the ZL1 1LE will be limited to about 750, but there hasn't been much markups. Must be a lot more demand for GT350's than ZL1 1LE's.
Come out to Cali. these dealers out here wont sell at MSRP. penske manager said to start at 10K , WIN 5K , Rydell 2.5K still not as bad as 20K over for a GT350.
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Old 10-20-2017, 01:58 AM   #30
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Searched Autotrader and just found 5 Garnet Red ZL1 1LE's all over the U.S. for sale

DON'T PAY ANYTHING OVER MSRP! Keep looking, I did and didn't get screwed over via +$10K over MSRP.
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Old 10-20-2017, 06:41 AM   #31
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I'll be 1 out of my guess 5 sold in So.Cal. TPW 10/23



Come out to Cali. these dealers out here wont sell at MSRP. penske manager said to start at 10K , WIN 5K , Rydell 2.5K still not as bad as 20K over for a GT350.
I think you guys are underestimating how many are out here.
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Old 10-21-2017, 02:44 AM   #32
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750 if that many are even ordered, the ZL1 1LE is for a unique buyer. Most people want the A10 and will go with the stock ZL1.

I have 1 of 3 ZL1 1LE's in the whole socal area.
I have seen 3 different ones at car shows (all different colors, so I am sure) and Rydell had 5 on delivery weeks ago, all pre-sold prior to arrival. I am sure some of the other dozens of dealerships have atleast sold a few more. There seems to be half a dozen members on the forum who have a ZL1 1LE from SoCal, but even then you can't assume that every ZL1/ZL1 1LE owner is on this forum...

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Seems odd that roughly 5,000 GT350s are made each year and they still have markups, while the ZL1 1LE will be limited to about 750, but there hasn't been much markups. Must be a lot more demand for GT350's than ZL1 1LE's.
In SoCal, it seems mostly the larger dealers have serious mark ups on GT350s. They can afford to let their inventory just sit in their Showroom. Galpin Ford likes to do that. They kept one on their floor for over 7 months before it disappeared. They wanted $20K over...crazy. Vista wanted $10k for theirs. I am sure each was sort of negotiable, but when you have those starting points, you will never get close to MSRP. Shelby owners love their number plates. Even if they were limited to 100,000 GT350s, they would still buy them. I am surprised that Chevy never likes to do that, but I guess they like to leave the door open, so if they have a huge demand they can always build more than the estimated number. For example, people on this forum know the magic ZL1 1LE #750, but the general public does not know that...on a GT350, they can read the number on the dash plaque which makes it special. If for some reason, everyone wanted a ZL1 1LE...Chevy can build more...they don't have to stop @ 750...they can build 5000 cars if their was a demand, but we know by past history there won't be. If you look at the 2017 ZL1 numbers, there aren't alot of whole numbers there...like 500 ZL1's or 1000...or 1200...they built as many as they can sell. Ford does not do that. They say we are building 500 GT350Rs (I don't know the actual number)...and that is it, makes the car special psychologically...

If someone really wants a GT350 now, try a smaller dealership. They are most likely willing to deal, especially if you are willing to buy a few options or maybe an extended warranty...or something. If all else fails there are a ton of used GT350s for sale all around SoCal and I am sure other places too. CarMax had over a dozen on their website...lol

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Come out to Cali. these dealers out here wont sell at MSRP. penske manager said to start at 10K , WIN 5K , Rydell 2.5K still not as bad as 20K over for a GT350.
If you did not get it by now, you might be 1 of 25+ by the time you do in SoCal...still pretty rare, I guess. I am going to also guess with SEMA right around the corner many of these autoshops around here are prepping some in closed garages as well
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In SoCal, it seems mostly the larger dealers have serious mark ups on GT350s. They can afford to let their inventory just sit in their Showroom. Galpin Ford likes to do that. They kept one on their floor for over 7 months before it disappeared. They wanted $20K over...crazy. Vista wanted $10k for theirs. I am sure each was sort of negotiable, but when you have those starting points, you will never get close to MSRP.
Those prices are sometimes driven by Indian Casino money or the "Calif. Keep up with the Jones Attitude"

You SoCal guys need to go to States that have suppressed markets, (Like OR. or UT as both were bending over backwards for my ZL1 1LE deal)

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If you did not get it by now, you might be 1 of 25+ by the time you do in SoCal...still pretty rare, I guess. I am going to also guess with SEMA right around the corner many of these autoshops around here are prepping some in closed garages as well
Nope, just search the net. I've found at least 6 ZL1 1LE's available for sale over over the U.S. this last week.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:44 AM   #34
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Old 10-22-2017, 11:43 AM   #35
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I have 1 of 3 ZL1 1LE's in the whole socal area.
I have 1 , and there is another guy in west covina that has one as well.
I have not seen another on the road, but based on signatures alone on this forum there are at least 5.
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I have 1 , and there is another guy in west covina that has one as well.
I have not seen another on the road, but based on signatures alone on this forum there are at least 5.
I haven't seen any yet on the streets around here
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Old 10-23-2017, 09:15 AM   #37
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How are you defining socal?
If that were true You and I would have the only (3) In so. ca. and the second one of mine was just built on the 13 of OCT.
Oh I forgot the only other red one in SO.CA
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:53 AM   #38
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I think you guys are underestimating how many are out here.
Out here is different from sold, I know there's at least 5 in the Los Angeles area.

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I have seen 3 different ones at car shows (all different colors, so I am sure) and Rydell had 5 on delivery weeks ago, all pre-sold prior to arrival. I am sure some of the other dozens of dealerships have atleast sold a few more. There seems to be half a dozen members on the forum who have a ZL1 1LE from SoCal, but even then you can't assume that every ZL1/ZL1 1LE owner is on this forum...





In SoCal, it seems mostly the larger dealers have serious mark ups on GT350s. They can afford to let their inventory just sit in their Showroom. Galpin Ford likes to do that. They kept one on their floor for over 7 months before it disappeared. They wanted $20K over...crazy. Vista wanted $10k for theirs. I am sure each was sort of negotiable, but when you have those starting points, you will never get close to MSRP. Shelby owners love their number plates. Even if they were limited to 100,000 GT350s, they would still buy them. I am surprised that Chevy never likes to do that, but I guess they like to leave the door open, so if they have a huge demand they can always build more than the estimated number. For example, people on this forum know the magic ZL1 1LE #750, but the general public does not know that...on a GT350, they can read the number on the dash plaque which makes it special. If for some reason, everyone wanted a ZL1 1LE...Chevy can build more...they don't have to stop @ 750...they can build 5000 cars if their was a demand, but we know by past history there won't be. If you look at the 2017 ZL1 numbers, there aren't alot of whole numbers there...like 500 ZL1's or 1000...or 1200...they built as many as they can sell. Ford does not do that. They say we are building 500 GT350Rs (I don't know the actual number)...and that is it, makes the car special psychologically...

If someone really wants a GT350 now, try a smaller dealership. They are most likely willing to deal, especially if you are willing to buy a few options or maybe an extended warranty...or something. If all else fails there are a ton of used GT350s for sale all around SoCal and I am sure other places too. CarMax had over a dozen on their website...lol



If you did not get it by now, you might be 1 of 25+ by the time you do in SoCal...still pretty rare, I guess. I am going to also guess with SEMA right around the corner many of these autoshops around here are prepping some in closed garages as well
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I have 1 , and there is another guy in west covina that has one as well.
I have not seen another on the road, but based on signatures alone on this forum there are at least 5.
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If that were true You and I would have the only (3) In so. ca. and the second one of mine was just built on the 13 of OCT.
Oh I forgot the only other red one in SO.CA
I kid because I care
Rydell didn't have the cars sold when I called, plus they did not have the color I wanted. I know there's going to be good number of 1LE's in California. Rydell had 4 allocations WIN 1, Penske 1 Nissani bros 1, Keyes 1/2 there's a couple other dealers GM gave me that had allocations. Mine has a TPW for 10/23 and should be here before thanksgiving since I bought out of state. Anyone ditched the stock blower yet ?
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Out here is different from sold, I know there's at least 5 in the Los Angeles area.

Rydell didn't have the cars sold when I called, plus they did not have the color I wanted. I know there's going to be good number of 1LE's in California. Rydell had 4 allocations WIN 1, Penske 1 Nissani bros 1, Keyes 1/2 there's a couple other dealers GM gave me that had allocations. Mine has a TPW for 10/23 and should be here before thanksgiving since I bought out of state. Anyone ditched the stock blower yet ?
Thanks for the info.

When did you place your order?
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Thanks for the info.

When did you place your order?
I placed the order on 5/9 and had to call GM to ask WTF??? They're sending cars to dealers asking for a markup meanwhile dealers selling at MSRP aren't getting their cars built.
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I placed the order on 5/9 and had to call GM to ask WTF??? They're sending cars to dealers asking for a markup meanwhile dealers selling at MSRP aren't getting their cars built.
Thanks, They gave me a Build Date of JANUARY....WTF???
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Old 10-25-2017, 02:41 PM   #42
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Thanks, They gave me a Build Date of JANUARY....WTF???
Unfortunately, I am in the same boat.
Ordered 5/19/17, TPW 1/29/18.
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