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Old 06-10-2020, 02:39 PM   #57
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Cant comment on non brembo stock brakes. but the brembo pads on my 2SS are/were terrible. I switched out to Powerstop pads after 7500 miles.
Solved that problem!

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Well my brakes are Brembo Stock, they are just not the 6 Piston Red. They are the 4 Piston Black calipers.
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Old 06-10-2020, 02:42 PM   #58
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Then you probably don't want to spend $2k+ and add that extra weight in the front from the larger rotor and 6-piston calipers...
If you have a cheaper alternative that would look just as good. I'm not just painting the black Brembo calipers red... It's not the same. That might work for some and that's great, but I don't want just painted calipers. You won't have and of the Brembo Performance or any of the letteing on them as the OEM Brembo's do. Uless you are an amazing hand painter to paint the lettering after the fact. I'm not concerned about the $$ and I doubt the weight is going to really make a major difference.
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:44 PM   #59
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The letters are just sticker. When done you applY clear coat Over it.
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Old 06-10-2020, 05:27 PM   #60
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The letters are just sticker. When done you applY clear coat Over it.
Gotcha... Good to know...!
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Old 06-10-2020, 05:47 PM   #61
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Gotcha... Good to know...!
Why don't you find out the part number for the 4 piston Red front and back Brembos and just put those on, you won't have to change rotors OR pads...

I have the Red 4 Piston Brembos on my 2SS front and back... Gives you the look you want without the $2500+ expense!




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Old 06-10-2020, 05:50 PM   #62
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As an aside I always thought the 4 piston in back was a bit of waste as to the added weight on the SS.

Not following this. Can you elaborate?


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Then you probably don't want to spend $2k+ and add that extra weight in the front from the larger rotor and 6-piston calipers...

The 6 piston performance front brake package only weighs ~3lbs more than the base LS floating caliper and 12.6" rotor. That's less than a 1% increase in weight. Not going to be noticeable in any way. Also, the 6 piston setup is the same weight as the 4 piston LT1/SS front package.



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Old 06-10-2020, 05:55 PM   #63
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Not following this. Can you elaborate?





The 6 piston performance front brake package only weighs ~3lbs more than the base LS floating caliper and 12.6" rotor. That's less than a 1% increase in weight. Not going to be noticeable in any way. Also, the 6 piston setup is the same weight as the 4 piston LT1/SS front package.



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You mean less than a 0.1% increase...
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:08 PM   #64
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You mean less than a 0.1% increase...
Actually meant less than 10%. Base LS front brake assembly is ~40lbs and 6 piston performance assembly is ~43lbs.

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Old 06-10-2020, 06:37 PM   #65
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Actually meant less than 10%. Base LS front brake assembly is ~40lbs and 6 piston performance assembly is ~43lbs.

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Oh, I thought you were talking curb weight increase...
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:46 PM   #66
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The car already has a 54:46 weight distribution, and some people want to make it worse for no reason associated with braking performance (okay, not much worse, but still a 6+ lbs change in the wrong direction).

What's more, they're okay with spending $2-2.5k plus labor just to have red calipers painted in the factory and not by a(n equally professional) paint shop that will yield 100% equivalent or even better results, after all, that white or black brembo decal isn't handcrafted and the shop can clearcoat the entire surface.

It's totally fine, of course, everyone does whatever they want with their car, and I'm sure my mods can also be criticized ("why didn't you just get the ZL1" etc.) Just makes it difficult to reason about, that's all.
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:47 PM   #67
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I have the Red 4 Piston Brembos on my 2SS front and back... Gives you the look you want without the $2500+ expense!
i think the look he wants does not involve little brakes.

i had no idea red calipers did so much for people, regardless of performance.
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:54 PM   #68
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i think the look he wants does not involve little brakes.

i had no idea red calipers did so much for people, regardless of performance.
The front 4 caliper Brembos are not "little", the fronts are a lot larger than the rears...

The front 4 piston & front 6 piston don't look all that much different, I've seen them side by side...
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Old 06-10-2020, 07:33 PM   #69
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The car already has a 54:46 weight distribution, and some people want to make it worse for no reason associated with braking performance (okay, not much worse, but still a 6+ lbs change in the wrong direction).

6 lbs on a 3700lb car is meaningless. Most people carry at least that much around just in random junk in the car (or themselves!).



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What's more, they're okay with spending $2-2.5k plus labor just to have red calipers painted in the factory and not by a(n equally professional) paint shop that will yield 100% equivalent or even better results, after all, that white or black brembo decal isn't handcrafted and the shop can clearcoat the entire surface.

It's totally fine, of course, everyone does whatever they want with their car, and I'm sure my mods can also be criticized ("why didn't you just get the ZL1" etc.) Just makes it difficult to reason about, that's all.

To be clear, red calipers are only $395 (installed). The $2+k is for 6 piston calipers and the floating rotors.


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Old 06-10-2020, 10:04 PM   #70
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6 lbs on a 3700lb car is meaningless. Most people carry at least that much around just in random junk in the car (or themselves!).
HEY!!! Leave my Beer Belly out of this!!!


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To be clear, red calipers are only $395 (installed). The $2+k is for 6 piston calipers and the floating rotors.
The BEST $395 I spent on my 2020 2SS, I get SOOOOO many compliments on them! (those and the GMP CAI!)
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