[sklippi2018]

Originally Posted by Capricio

Any ideas what they were trying to rig up with a ribbon cable at around the 2:00 minute mark? I wonder if the owner had a dummy OBD plug and they were sophisticated enough to find the databus under the dash somewhere?


Ironic, using the white 1LE to try to steal a ZL1, working their way up.

I thought same regarding the dummy OBD plug. Persistent buggers!

[DamonZ28]

Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Until GM fixes this (if they ever do), get yourself a "kill switch", hide your OBD-II port and install a fake one and get a steering wheel club (yes, I know they can cut the steering wheel and remove the club but if they don't have a hack saw with them, they can't do much and simply seeing the "club" may give them pause as to what other measures you have taken to avoid theft and they may simply pass on your vehicle)... I install my club everywhere I park the car, even if only for 10-15 minutes...

And keeping your keys in a faraday bag.

[Abubaca]

what are the legal rights that we, as owners have, if we're confronted by a thief?

I'm in NC, and I carry everyday. I (we) in NC cannot use deadly force to deter theft. Only to protect myself or someone from imminent bodily harm. If I was threatened while in my vehicle, I could of course use deadly force, but still I'm protecting "ME", and not my vehicle.



Not sure about your state.

[GreenZLE]

Originally Posted by CTRifecta

what are the legal rights that we, as owners have, if we're confronted by a thief?

If I feel as though my life is threatened, I'm emptying the mag.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

Its a shame the owners dont come out and shoot the thieves dead.

#LIKEABOSS

https://youtu.be/ESwP7RSqYZk?si=3tcenuzF0hbNAK4v

Then again he lives in Detroit. Shooting yourself in the foot doing that.

[L2SS455]

Maybe, it's still better to Call GM customer service and demand an security Update 1-800 222-1020. Just like JLR did for it customers for new and older vehicles. I have. If they get enough complaints that might just help us out. Even with thousands spent on security prevention we get broken windows due to this issue being know via tiktok.

[plus1zero]

Originally Posted by CTRifecta

what are the legal rights that we, as owners have, if we're confronted by a thief?

It varies by state.

Or if you live in Canada, you're supposed to just leave your keys in the door and in your carseat to avoid confrontation with thieves. Imagine being led by someone that weak and having nobody in the country that is on your side to defend yourself.

[Deacon Blues]

Originally Posted by GreenZLE

If I feel as though my life is threatened, I'm emptying the mag.

They're heading right for us

[Deacon Blues]

Originally Posted by plus1zero

It varies by state.

Or if you live in Canada, you're supposed to just leave your keys in the door and in your carseat to avoid confrontation with thieves. Imagine being led by someone that weak and having nobody in the country that is on your side to defend yourself.

For those who don't believe this is real, Ontario police are now telling people to leave their keyfobs outside their front door so that thieves won't break in to steal them.


https://nowtoronto.com/news/toronto-...aws-criticism/


Don't believe me? Here is the video:


Peak clown world.

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by Abubaca

I'm in NC, and I carry everyday. I (we) in NC cannot use deadly force to deter theft. Only to protect myself or someone from imminent bodily harm. If I was threatened while in my vehicle, I could of course use deadly force, but still I'm protecting "ME", and not my vehicle.

Not sure about your state.

Pretty much this ^^. The use of a firearm constitutes the application of deadly force which is only justifiable in the context of using it to save a life, not property.

Things I remember from long ago in Concealed Carry class:

Can't shoot them in the back, even when running off with your flatscreen.
Can't shoot at them in a car fleeing.
Can't shoot them in the leg (deliberately) because it demonstrates that deadly force was not required.
Can't shoot them for stealing or destroying your property, even harming/killing pets or livestock, unless you can prove human life was at risk.

Basically, they have to be "coming right at you" or your family/others and in that case you should aim for center mass.

Where states vary is "castle law" doctrine. Some states give a lot of leeway once someone has B&E'd your home.

[split_bumper]

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

For those who don't believe this is real, Ontario police are now telling people to leave their keyfobs outside their front door so that thieves won't break in to steal them.


https://nowtoronto.com/news/toronto-...aws-criticism/


Don't believe me? Here is the video:


Peak clown world.

Can you believe this, just throwing the surrender flag. Trudeau led country at its best. I am a Canadian living in MN and everyone here says how dumb and stupid Biden is, which I won't get in to politics, but then I say, have you ever heard of Trudeau

[L2SS455]

Until GM fixes this. This is what we have to content with.

[Junction65]

Originally Posted by L2SS455

Until GM fixes this. This is what we have to content with.

This aint a GM problem, its an ideology problem. You are in Maryland right? Well May 14, 2024 from 7 am to 8 pm is your chance to start to fix it. Otherwise come on here, continue to flap your keyboard and deal with it...

[L2SS455]

Originally Posted by Junction65

This aint a GM problem, its an ideology problem. You are in Maryland right? Well May 14, 2024 from 7 am to 8 pm is your chance to start to fix it. Otherwise come on here, continue to flap your keyboard and deal with it...

Sure it's GM problem. JLR fixed their customer cars, read up on it and get back to us.