V8 swap into a 2014 2LT RS is it worth it? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

VinnysMusubi · 06-23-2016, 03:31 PM

Hey all,

I have a 2014 RS Spring edition. I love this car. But I want more power. So either im going with twin turbo to the v6 or I want to swap into an LS3.
I also think it would be very cool to have a twin turbo v6 and eat up someone with a v8 jsut for shits and giggles. But....
I feel like if I go with the Twins that I could potentially (Play hard) and blow it. and end up doing a swap anyway. OR should I just go ahead and do a Swap...

Another thing is people have told me that it would be a simple swap. Motor, trans,axles/gears. is that true? or would everything electronic need to be done too?

I really like the way this car looks and to have a v8 model that looks this good would be pretty spendy. Unless I find a Spring edition v8 of course.
I basically settled for this car because I told my self that It would be my Daily. And that i know I wont race so why go for the V8.. lol LIES!!!

Homeless Man · 06-23-2016, 03:35 PM

There are detailed threads of people that have tried. Your not gonna be able to do a V8 swap unless you want to pay more than the cost of an SS. It's not simple.

LT1Zob · 06-23-2016, 03:38 PM

Also consider suspension, brakes and then the working out of all the bugs over time. My opinion, you'll be happier finding a V8 Spring Edition and calling it a day if a V8 is what you're after

PalmerGA · 06-23-2016, 03:41 PM

Time to trade UP!

Thor142 · 06-23-2016, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeless Man

There are detailed threads of people that have tried. Your not gonna be able to do a V8 swap unless you want to pay more than the cost of an SS. It's not simple.

Listen to the Homeless guy

SS/RS2010 · 06-23-2016, 03:42 PM

In addition to the aforementioned suspension and brakes, not sure the transmission will match up, V6 version may also have different wiring, etc.....prolly an expensive endeavor.

Dmpsix · 06-23-2016, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinnysMusubi

Hey all,

I have a 2014 RS Spring edition. I love this car. But I want more power. So either im going with twin turbo to the v6 or I want to swap into an LS3.
I also think it would be very cool to have a twin turbo v6 and eat up someone with a v8 jsut for shits and giggles. But....
I feel like if I go with the Twins that I could potentially (Play hard) and blow it. and end up doing a swap anyway. OR should I just go ahead and do a Swap...

Another thing is people have told me that it would be a simple swap. Motor, trans,axles/gears. is that true? or would everything electronic need to be done too?

I really like the way this car looks and to have a v8 model that looks this good would be pretty spendy. Unless I find a Spring edition v8 of course.
I basically settled for this car because I told my self that It would be my Daily. And that i know I wont race so why go for the V8.. lol LIES!!!

People have tried, about 95% have failed miserably.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...6+swap+into+v8

There is just WAY TOO MUCH electronically to swap these things out. Not worth it, better to just trade the car in and get the SS/V8, you'll end up spending the cost of a slightly used 1LE/SS

Better to either twin turbo it and smoke everyone (gotta pay to play amirite?) or just trade the sucker in.

jcampos · 06-23-2016, 03:47 PM

TTV6 sounds awesome! I say go for it. Do not drop in a LS3 too many issues with that conversion.

CapeCruisin · 06-23-2016, 03:52 PM

just trade in the v6 for a v8.

KR4545 · 06-23-2016, 03:57 PM

The electronics is what confounds many people who do that without dealing with the in-car network. You will need to get the "MDI2" diagnostic tool, it hooks up to a PC and connects to GM's server called TIS2WEB. This acts a bridge and connects the car directly to GM over the internet so thier servers can reprogram your car with firmware thats compiled for only your car when you select the options and VIN you need.

You will need to change the engine's computer to the V8 version, then reprogram it with the correct firmware and VIN number. You also need to reprogram every body control module (switches, electric motors, sensors, etc.) to work with the V8 computer as the communication is handled slightly different. You can get all the files to do the electronics by going to https://tis2web.service.gm.com/tis2web .

People who do the swap by just plugging in the donor cars engine computer will never be able to do fun things like rolling the windows down, using the radio, or having the airbags go off when its supposed to.

And keep in mind that the engine computer should go into its anti theft mode when you unplug it from the harness of the donor car, you need the MDI and TIS2WEB to re-enable it. Sometimes people mistakenly think they broke an expensive computer when it just needs a reset.

The_Driver · 06-23-2016, 04:03 PM

If the performance of a stock V8 is all you're after, then you can keep the V6 that you have now. Just do all the mods that Derek has done in the V6 section plus a small 30-50 shot and you're done. He got 316 rwhp which is pretty close to what a stock L99 V8 pushes at the rear wheels.

robotfighter · 06-23-2016, 04:09 PM

Turbocharge?

90503 · 06-23-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VinnysMusubi

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Another thing is people have told me that it would be a simple swap.

...And how do these people know this, exactly?..

....Have some of those "people" help you with the project and let us know how it turns out...Good luck.

JLSuperfly · 06-23-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by robotfighter

Turbocharge?

2.0T all the way!

06-23-2016, 03:31 PM	#1
VinnysMusubi Drives: 2014 RS Spring Edition summit white Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Oregon Posts: 9 View My Garage	V8 swap into a 2014 2LT RS is it worth it? Hey all, I have a 2014 RS Spring edition. I love this car. But I want more power. So either im going with twin turbo to the v6 or I want to swap into an LS3. I also think it would be very cool to have a twin turbo v6 and eat up someone with a v8 jsut for shits and giggles. But.... I feel like if I go with the Twins that I could potentially (Play hard) and blow it. and end up doing a swap anyway. OR should I just go ahead and do a Swap... Another thing is people have told me that it would be a simple swap. Motor, trans,axles/gears. is that true? or would everything electronic need to be done too? I really like the way this car looks and to have a v8 model that looks this good would be pretty spendy. Unless I find a Spring edition v8 of course. I basically settled for this car because I told my self that It would be my Daily. And that i know I wont race so why go for the V8.. lol LIES!!!

06-23-2016, 03:35 PM	#2
Homeless Man Homeless Life Chose Me Drives: LS3 (sold 4/21) Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Streets of Philly Posts: 3,650	There are detailed threads of people that have tried. Your not gonna be able to do a V8 swap unless you want to pay more than the cost of an SS. It's not simple. __________________ Pity a man in familiar places, who yet feels like a stranger.

06-23-2016, 03:38 PM	#3
LT1Zob Drives: 23 LT1 / 19 Z06 / after 6 5th gens Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: MI Posts: 1,992 View My Garage	Also consider suspension, brakes and then the working out of all the bugs over time. My opinion, you'll be happier finding a V8 Spring Edition and calling it a day if a V8 is what you're after __________________ "Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you"

06-23-2016, 03:41 PM	#4
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,755 View My Garage	Time to trade UP! __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

06-23-2016, 03:52 PM	#9
CapeCruisin Daily Driver 24/7 365 Drives: '15 CRT 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 827	just trade in the v6 for a v8. __________________ NPP Fuse Pull, Z28 CAI = Previous Rides: 2005 Magnum R/T A5 CAI, Cat-Back 2014 RRM Camaro 1LT/RS A6/NPP CAI Follow Me On Instagram!

06-23-2016, 03:42 PM	#6
SS/RS2010 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2016 Location: San Antonio Posts: 288 View My Garage	In addition to the aforementioned suspension and brakes, not sure the transmission will match up, V6 version may also have different wiring, etc.....prolly an expensive endeavor.

06-23-2016, 03:47 PM	#8
jcampos Drives: 2014 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: San Antonio Posts: 821	TTV6 sounds awesome! I say go for it. Do not drop in a LS3 too many issues with that conversion.

06-23-2016, 03:57 PM	#10
KR4545 Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: NYC area Posts: 304	The electronics is what confounds many people who do that without dealing with the in-car network. You will need to get the "MDI2" diagnostic tool, it hooks up to a PC and connects to GM's server called TIS2WEB. This acts a bridge and connects the car directly to GM over the internet so thier servers can reprogram your car with firmware thats compiled for only your car when you select the options and VIN you need. You will need to change the engine's computer to the V8 version, then reprogram it with the correct firmware and VIN number. You also need to reprogram every body control module (switches, electric motors, sensors, etc.) to work with the V8 computer as the communication is handled slightly different. You can get all the files to do the electronics by going to https://tis2web.service.gm.com/tis2web . People who do the swap by just plugging in the donor cars engine computer will never be able to do fun things like rolling the windows down, using the radio, or having the airbags go off when its supposed to. And keep in mind that the engine computer should go into its anti theft mode when you unplug it from the harness of the donor car, you need the MDI and TIS2WEB to re-enable it. Sometimes people mistakenly think they broke an expensive computer when it just needs a reset. __________________

06-23-2016, 04:03 PM	#11
The_Driver Banned Drives: 2015 Camaro 1LS M6 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: U.S. Posts: 272	If the performance of a stock V8 is all you're after, then you can keep the V6 that you have now. Just do all the mods that Derek has done in the V6 section plus a small 30-50 shot and you're done. He got 316 rwhp which is pretty close to what a stock L99 V8 pushes at the rear wheels.

06-23-2016, 04:09 PM	#12
robotfighter Drives: Black 2011 Camaro 2LS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 249	Turbocharge?