[dpevans]

I have the wrong job.

[fzanetti]

Interesting that it had Ontario plates...

So looking forward to "seeing" it in person!!!


Flavio

[z.l1]

Originally Posted by fzanetti

Interesting that it had Ontario plates...

So looking forward to "seeing" it in person!!!


Flavio

I believe those are Michigan plates

[HDRDTD]

Originally Posted by z.l1

I believe those are Michigan plates

Yes they appear to be manufacturer plates for sure since it has an 'M' in the middle and they also appear to be Michigan plates.

[artsbest]

Curious as to who are "they?" GM folks I assume or a 3rd party testing group? If they're GM people are these the engineers that designed the cars who take them home to personally test them?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by artsbest

Curious as to who are "they?" GM folks I assume or a 3rd party testing group? If they're GM people are these the engineers that designed the cars who take them home to personally test them?

Yes, the people developing the car drive them around to evaluate performance quality and general function as part of the process. This is normal. But up until very close to production, they're limited to driving very rough engineering mules that cannot be evaluated for quality. Other cars are called "IVER", or integration vehicle engineering release...more testers. These are the cars we see in black and white camoflauge and padding.

Towards the end of the process they drive pre-production vehicles that may be produced to nearly final specs in the factory but are not assigned a VIN, and other newer cars called "CTF", or captured-test fleet vehicles. These are basically "loaners" for employees to drive and provide critical quality feedback on everything from noise vibration and harshness to interior fit and finish, as well as driving dynamics. CTF cars are nearly indistinguishable from production vehicles and some get sold as used cars. For this reason, they've got little cult following.

I'm not certain, but I think this black ZL1 could be CTF. It looks (from what we can see) very finished.

While Al and friends are dialing the chassis settings and calibrations in, they could have issued a CTF cars to check on quality simultaneously.

[Raven87]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Yes, the people developing the car drive them around to evaluate performance quality and general function as part of the process. This is normal. But up until very close to production, they're limited to driving very rough engineering mules that cannot be evaluated for quality. Other cars are called "IVER", or integration vehicle engineering release...more testers. These are the cars we see in black and white camoflauge and padding.

Towards the end of the process they drive pre-production vehicles that may be produced to nearly final specs in the factory but are not assigned a VIN, and other newer cars called "CTF", or captured-test fleet vehicles. These are basically "loaners" for employees to drive and provide critical quality feedback on everything from noise vibration and harshness to interior fit and finish, as well as driving dynamics. CTF cars are nearly indistinguishable from production vehicles and some get sold as used cars. For this reason, they've got little cult following.

I'm not certain, but I think this black ZL1 could be CTF. It looks (from what we can see) very finished.

While Al and friends are dialing the chassis settings and calibrations in, they could have issued a CTF cars to check on quality simultaneously.

Great info. Thank you!

[HDRDTD]

Also, don't forget that GM's proving grounds are just a few miles north of where the picture was taken.

[artsbest]

Very informative well written summation Mr W. You covered all the bases for sure to my question.

The black ZL1 looks like very much like a production unit or as you referred to as a CTF.

When do you think this car was assembled? Months ago or just recently?

[szalkerous]

Still trying to figure out where that front plate is going to go.....

[Heavymetal454]

Originally Posted by szalkerous

Still trying to figure out where that front plate is going to go.....

In the backseat! Pay the fine.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by Heavymetal454

In the backseat! Pay the fine.

I would pay the ticket before I would put my plate on the front bumper

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Raven87

Great info. Thank you!

Originally Posted by artsbest

Very informative well written summation Mr W. You covered all the bases for sure to my question.

The black ZL1 looks like very much like a production unit or as you referred to as a CTF.

When do you think this car was assembled? Months ago or just recently?

You're welcome!

Recently. Weeks, maybe...but not months.

[clanky]

Originally Posted by artsbest

I wonder how many ZL1's GM has built running about being tested? And who is driving this unit? GM folk or a 3rd party group?

They're at least short by one, cuz I don't have one to "test".