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Old 11-19-2017, 04:21 PM   #57
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I am doubtful. I put the Z/28 stuff on the SS 1LE and strung the engine out to 7000rpm...it was a helluva lot of fun.

But then, I did opt for the car I did, so perhaps my head isn’t in the same spot as what I’m reading here.
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:03 PM   #58
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I think there is still space for a Z/28, even if it sits around the ZL1 price range. The Z/28 should offer a different experience than the ZL1.

I would take an n/a Z/28 over the ZL1, even if they were identically priced.
I would have taken that over my ZL1 in the 5th gen. Basically a 1LE with a LS7 for under $60k. That formula today would sell like hot cakes and it absolutely wouldn't have to be faster than the ZL1-1LE. Different experience for those not wanting forced induction.

I'm not interested in GM's 1.9 or 1.7L superchargers so NA it is for me. Offer a LT5 sized huffer and I'll consider it again
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:41 PM   #59
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I was hoping the new LT5 would be the return of a next generation DOHC N/A V8. Instead, GM gave us another LT4 variant with a larger displacement supercharger and port fuel injection on it.

IMO, they should have never named it LT5. However, just like what they did with the "SS" nameplate in recent memory, they stuck a legendary RPO code on a regular pushrod supercharged engine to gain sales.

Shame on GM.
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Old 11-19-2017, 09:56 PM   #60
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The SS 1LE is the affordable Grand Sport of the Camaro lineup so we can let the naturally aspirated ZL1 1LE Lite model be the New Z/28 with more of the lite weight hardcore go fast hardware.

I don't want a hot LT1 but I do want a high revving high powered track terror with Team Camaro thinking outside the box, so to speak, to achieve the same goals as the Supercharged ZL1 but naturally aspirated instead.

DCT, High Revving DOHC V8, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, DSSV Twin Stage Suspension, ZL1 1LE Aero, and lite weight Carbon Fiber Wheels. Thats my wish list for the Z/28 and if it's $65-$75K, thats cool by me, I'll lust after this bad boy and save up for purchase. This and/or a rear mid engine Corvette will be my last high dollar toy in the drive way.
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Old 11-20-2017, 05:49 AM   #61
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The SS 1LE is the affordable Grand Sport of the Camaro lineup so we can let the naturally aspirated ZL1 1LE Lite model be the New Z/28 with more of the lite weight hardcore go fast hardware.

I don't want a hot LT1 but I do want a high revving high powered track terror with Team Camaro thinking outside the box, so to speak, to achieve the same goals as the Supercharged ZL1 but naturally aspirated instead.

DCT, High Revving DOHC V8, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, DSSV Twin Stage Suspension, ZL1 1LE Aero, and lite weight Carbon Fiber Wheels. Thats my wish list for the Z/28 and if it's $65-$75K, thats cool by me, I'll lust after this bad boy and save up for purchase. This and/or a rear mid engine Corvette will be my last high dollar toy in the drive way.
The SS 1LE is more like a Z51. A ZL1 1LE but with an LT1 would be the Grand Sport equivalent.

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Old 11-20-2017, 08:27 AM   #62
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Well, we know that there is a mid-engine corvette mule running about, and it could have a new N/A motor in it with DOHC. To offset some development costs, they could throw that new engine in a Z/28. And like the 5th gen Z/28, it will come out after the refresh. That's a lot of if's, but I will be watching the release of the new mid-engine 'vette with interest....
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Old 11-24-2017, 04:08 PM   #63
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I have a 5th gen 1LE and love that car but my dad has a 15 Z/28 and that is one of the few cars I would give up my 1LE for. The experience of that car is like nothing I have had before behind the wheel.
Have you ever driven a 6th gen SS 1LE...? Specifically up a canyon road ...or your favourite twisty stretch...?
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Old 11-24-2017, 11:29 PM   #64
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Have you ever driven a 6th gen SS 1LE...? Specifically up a canyon road ...or your favourite twisty stretch...?
No, not yet.
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Old 11-25-2017, 05:38 PM   #65
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I was hoping the new LT5 would be the return of a next generation DOHC N/A V8. Instead, GM gave us another LT4 variant with a larger displacement supercharger and port fuel injection on it.

IMO, they should have never named it LT5. However, just like what they did with the "SS" nameplate in recent memory, they stuck a legendary RPO code on a regular pushrod supercharged engine to gain sales.

Shame on GM.
A 750hp or even a 650hp N/A engine would be amazing I agree.

But N/A engine with 750hp would be up in the ranks with Ferraris and Lamborghinis, do you know the maintenance costs associated with hp high N/A engines?

Besides the maintenance cost, the cars MSRP would skyrocket. There's a reason we can get ZL1's and Z06 for 1/3 of the price of supercars. And you can thank that reason to supercharged V8's with little to no maintenance upkeep.
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:01 PM   #66
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A 750hp or even a 650hp N/A engine would be amazing I agree.

But N/A engine with 750hp would be up in the ranks with Ferraris and Lamborghinis, do you know the maintenance costs associated with hp high N/A engines?

Besides the maintenance cost, the cars MSRP would skyrocket. There's a reason we can get ZL1's and Z06 for 1/3 of the price of supercars. And you can thank that reason to supercharged V8's with little to no maintenance upkeep.
Agree, and the Italians are adding four more cylinders to achieve those numbers. Interesting is that the Aventador only achieves a 'measly' 500 ft/lb of torque. Although more than enough in that car as designed, it pales in comparison to the torque of the LT4 or the LT5.

While I understand the desire for the N/A engine, it's just not going to happen like that, not in the United States, and definitely not in a mass produced car with an MSRP under six figures.

The industry has come along way with forced induction in the last decade. It is the only replacement for displacement in terms of factory performance cars.
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Old 11-26-2017, 08:48 AM   #67
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Agree with above two posts. FI is the future with CAFE standards. BMW doesn't make NA motors anymore. At 6' 5" 230,Aventador's,720's, or Even Corvette's have never been an option. Good thing I have always been a Camaro guy!
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Old 11-27-2017, 02:37 PM   #68
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Well, we know that there is a mid-engine corvette mule running about, and it could have a new N/A motor in it with DOHC. To offset some development costs, they could throw that new engine in a Z/28. And like the 5th gen Z/28, it will come out after the refresh. That's a lot of if's, but I will be watching the release of the new mid-engine 'vette with interest....
it has a twin turbo motor, is what i heard, so its not the the Z/28 motor.
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Old 11-27-2017, 03:26 PM   #69
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it has a twin turbo motor, is what i heard, so its not the the Z/28 motor.
I heard that there will be at least two engines for the mid-engined corvette. Both DOHC, one N/A (the initial engine), and the same engine with FI (coming later).

Of course, this is all "insider info", which I treat with a large grain of salt. LARGE grain of salt...

But, if true, the N/A motor could find it's way in a Z/28.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:47 AM   #70
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Yeah the talk on the Corvette forums right now if that future Corvettes will feature a 4.2L DOHC V8 and a 5.5L DOHC V8, no word on if they’d have forced induction or not. A 427 in an SS 1LE or a ZL1 would make an awesome Z/28 though.
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