Last of the 1LE's?

[Dropspeed]

I like the above assessment.

If you want to guess performance figures take a look at the ATS-V numbers. Swap a similar or slightly more HP (underrated) V8 in the same chassis with wider tires. There are your numbers.

Matt

[Gen_Nick3.8]

Chevy never stated that the 6th gen handles better than 1LE, They said it was faster around the track. Well obviously it should it's got more power 455/455 & 200 lb/s lighter.

[Joseph1LE]

Originally Posted by Gen_Nick3.8

Chevy never stated that the 6th gen handles better than 1LE, They said it was faster around the track. Well obviously it should it's got more power 455/455 & 200 lb/s lighter.

This^ I'd bet that it AT BEST matches the 1LE in actual cornering ability even if it crosses the finish line in slightly quicker time.

[joelster]

Originally Posted by Bobcat

Yep. I totally agree. I doubt that there will even be a Z/28. I don't think the current gen Z/28 sold very well as it's above Corvette territory, and not much less than a Z06. Chevrolet would have to ditch the carbon ceramic brakes in order for it to fit in the Camaro price range/market segment.

I disagree on their not being a 6th gen Z/28. I'd bet money that they will make one, but they will make it not quite as hard core a the 5th gen Z. It was priced too high for them to sell a ton of them.

As for guys complaining about the pricing starting at near $38k, lol. A stock 6th gen will beat a 5th Gen 1LE around a racetrack. The cheapest 1LE you can get right now will be $38k-ish. You will be getting one hell of a car for $38k next year. The Ford camp should be worried. Their 5.0 is going to get smoked no doubt about it. It wouldn't surprise me to see a bone-stock 6th gen with an auto ripping low 12's.

[Joseph1LE]

Originally Posted by joelster

I disagree on their not being a 6th gen Z/28. I'd bet money that they will make one, but they will make it not quite as hard core a the 5th gen Z. It was priced too high for them to sell a ton of them.

As for guys complaining about the pricing starting at near $38k, lol. A stock 6th gen will beat a 5th Gen 1LE around a racetrack. The cheapest 1LE you can get right now will be $38k-ish. You will be getting one hell of a car for $38k next year. The Ford camp should be worried. Their 5.0 is going to get smoked no doubt about it. It wouldn't surprise me to see a bone-stock 6th gen with an auto ripping low 12's.

I got my '15 2SS 1LE with Recaros, NPP, and a ton of other goodies that I find useless for $35k.... And the $38k you're thinking of for the gen 6 is not including the absolutely retarded dealer mark up that can be guaranteed for the first year plus other stupid fees dealers want to add. Give it a year or two for the hype to die down and I think the gen 6 will be a much better value but as of now it's just not worth it in my opinion.

And it should be expected for the gen 6 to run low 12s. Mid 12s at least. It would be extremely disappointing for it to be any slower. And it should also be expected for Ford to fire back with a horsepower bump and maybe some suspension tweaks in the next couple years. The competition is what keeps these two cars progressing. Ford is not going to just settle with the whooping GM is gona hand out.

[joelster]

Originally Posted by Joseph1LE

I got my '15 2SS 1LE with Recaros, NPP, and a ton of other goodies that I find useless for $35k.... And the $38k you're thinking of for the gen 6 is not including the absolutely retarded dealer mark up that can be guaranteed for the first year plus other stupid fees dealers want to add. Give it a year or two for the hype to die down and I think the gen 6 will be a much better value but as of now it's just not worth it in my opinion.

And it should be expected for the gen 6 to run low 12s. Mid 12s at least. It would be extremely disappointing for it to be any slower. And it should also be expected for Ford to fire back with a horsepower bump and maybe some suspension tweaks in the next couple years. The competition is what keeps these two cars progressing. Ford is not going to just settle with the whooping GM is gona hand out.

I was talking MSRP pricing, not what a smoking deal joe-blow could get. They both MSRP nearly the same. A base 1SS 1LE is what? $33500 for a 1SS and $3500 for the 1LE option package= $37k.

Mark up on a new 2016 Camaro? You need to find a new dealer. It's not like they are going to be rare, lol. They may mark up a special edition model that is limited like some of them do on Z/28's but not a standard SS. At least the dealers around me don't.

[Shark72]

The direction Chevy is headed is towards specific options (RPO's)......personalization, as they call it! Look at the current marketing campaign.
The option list will include track options for the SS platform, AKA 1LE setup, but no 1LE model..
I do not think there will be as many models as the Gen 5. Just my crystal ball lighting up!

[Joseph1LE]

Originally Posted by joelster

I was talking MSRP pricing, not what a smoking deal joe-blow could get. They both MSRP nearly the same. A base 1SS 1LE is what? $33500 for a 1SS and $3500 for the 1LE option package= $37k.

Mark up on a new 2016 Camaro? You need to find a new dealer. It's not like they are going to be rare, lol. They may mark up a special edition model that is limited like some of them do on Z/28's but not a standard SS. At least the dealers around me don't.

When the C7 first came out they were marked up like hell and they made tons of them as well...

[joelster]

Originally Posted by Joseph1LE

When the C7 first came out they were marked up like hell and they made tons of them as well...

Tons? My dealer would get 1 or 2 a week if that. Production was very slow at first. They are a very high volume dealer too. We are talking about Camaro's here.

[Ragnar]

I like all the talk about the 1LE, considering the low production numbers! I feel lucky that the 1LE package was available when I placed my order. Just put some 305's on the rear, more beef looks sweet!

[vinman]

Originally Posted by Ragnar

I like all the talk about the 1LE, considering the low production numbers! I feel lucky that the 1LE package was available when I placed my order. Just put some 305's on the rear, more beef looks sweet!

Pics!

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Shark72

The direction Chevy is headed is towards specific options (RPO's)......personalization, as they call it! Look at the current marketing campaign.
The option list will include track options for the SS platform, AKA 1LE setup, but no 1LE model..

IOW, really no different from the situation right now. Officially the 1LE is just an option package, even though it takes the Camaro enough further in a specific direction for it to be instantly known by its option code alone.

Originally Posted by markgws6

This is what I predicted a while back. No 1LE option possibly as the Z/28 is the new "track edition" Camaro and they might just incorporate things into the SS, which they have. :-) It makes more sense for them if they wanted to have the optional equipment added on later taken from the new Z/28 like they do now. And man-o-man are those SS base prices steep!

I'm guessing that if the base GT350 does well that you will indeed see a 1LE or 1LE-level option. The Z/28 butts heads with the GT350R another rung up on the performance ladder.

Originally Posted by GONIF

Since the introduction of the 8 speed auto trans ,there won't be much interest in the manual trans . From what I have seen the new SS with the Lt engine and the 8 speed auto trans is a pretty potent package. If they have the magnaride available the 6th gen it should kick the 5th gens ass in every category and ride nice and smooth too . I expect the ZL1 supercharged 6 gen to be out by Jan/Feb 2016 to be the top dog 6 gen . Buy the 2nd or third year of the 6th gen they may have a version of the 1LE if the demand is there. Won't matter too much to me I'm keeping my 14 1LE and ,my next move will be a 2016 or 2017 Corvette with the 8 speed auto and Z51 .After you drive a C7 with the 8 speed auto , your spoiled. What ever GM does they will try to combat the GT350 and the Chrysler hell cat.

The GT350 and the Hellcat are two very different targets (and I doubt very many folks will cross-shop those two). It'll be much easier to sell an automatic of any number of speeds to the Hellcat kind of buyer than you'd ever be able to sell to a GT350 buyer . . . or a large proportion of today's 1LE owners. Part of the satisfaction comes from you doing your part right at everything, rather than from the AT being better at just one thing.


Norm

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by vinman

Pics!

I really didn't know my tires were that worn. Car still drove great!

[Norm Peterson]

Of course it did, quite possibly even a little better than almost-brand-new tires of the same make and model (unless you heat-cycled all the life out of them).

Tires don't grip dry pavement because of tread depth.


Norm