[IneedAZ]

I have had my heart set on the ZL1 in anticipation of it coming out strong for a couple years now, but for giggles i decided today to price out the SS with the options i would get and see no reason not to just go for the ZL1. The SS was $53,595. Too many benefits to the ZL1 for the extra cost. Personally, i think $54k for an SS is crazy, then u get the guys buying one and doing a supercharger and now you are in ZL1 money.

[DenverTaco07]

It was 53K because you selected a lot of high performance parts that will probably be standard on ZL1, and yes for an SS I wouldn't be putting all that stuff on there and pay $54K for it, as you said, kinda crazy.

Let me guess: Mag Ride, Dual Exhaust, six piston brakes, and the $2K wheel option and ground effects.

But to answer the thread title, no I didn't option out an SS and then decide to wait - ZL1 has been the only one I've been waiting for.

[avalonandl]

Thats why i want to see what the price of the SS 1LE is. It has the brakes, seats, mag ride etc. But I also get employee pricing (retiree) .

[IneedAZ]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

Let me guess: Mag Ride, Dual Exhaust, six piston brakes, and the $2K wheel option and ground effects.

except the wheels

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by avalonandl

Thats why i want to see what the price of the SS 1LE is. It has the brakes, seats, mag ride etc. But I also get employee pricing (retiree) .

I think the 1LE will top out in the low to mid 50's, after all, you can't get it in the more expensive 2SS, then take out your discount (but you'll have to wait i suppose) you lucky dog though...my guess for 1LE for you...$48K...purely guessing though.

Good things come to those that wait though right!

[Intimidator]

My SS was just under 50K (no BIG Brake pkg, Sunroof, or Aero pkg)...with my huge trade in on my 2012 (paid Off), employee price, Red Tag, 1000 bonus, splitting holdback...and selling my prized GTO...I was able to pay cash for the SS for my DD, AND will be able to pay cash for my Garage Queen ZL1 after the bugs are all worked out Next Summer!
And Yes, I'm old!

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

I think the 1LE will top out in the low to mid 50's, after all, you can't get it in the more expensive 2SS, then take out your discount (but you'll have to wait i suppose) you lucky dog though...my guess for 1LE for you...$48K...purely guessing though.

Good things come to those that wait though right!

I sure hope the new 1LE isn't $10k more than the last gen. That would be a huge fail. I've seen people throwing around numbers like $65-70k for the next ZL1 too. Prices like that will 100% keep me out of a 6th gen for the immediate future.
People can go on and on about value all you want but there's a reason 5th get Z's value tanked and some Z/28s are still sitting on lots new marked down 20K

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by Thor142

I sure hope the new 1LE isn't $10k more than the last gen. That would be a huge fail. I've seen people throwing around numbers like $65-70k for the next ZL1 too. Prices like that will 100% keep me out of a 6th gen for the immediate future.
People can go on and on about value all you want but there's a reason 5th get Z's value tanked and some Z/28s are still sitting on lots new marked down 20K

Wait...was a 5th Gen 1LE 42K?


I did say top out at...checking boxes adds lots of coinage.

[newb]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

I think the 1LE will top out in the low to mid 50's, after all, you can't get it in the more expensive 2SS, then take out your discount (but you'll have to wait i suppose) you lucky dog though...my guess for 1LE for you...$48K...purely guessing though.

Good things come to those that wait though right!

I'm not sure where you are getting low to mid 50's? There will not be many options available so unless you are saying the 1LE package is $10k plus the PDR at $1500 - $2000, I don't see $50k for a 1LE being possible. Not arguing, just trying to understand your numbers. Unless you are planning to add black emblems and taillights and every other checkbox available on the order form.

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

Wait...was a 5th Gen 1LE 42K?


I did say top out at...checking boxes adds lots of coinage.

1ss 1LE was 37 ish before options.

I think it should land in between 1SS and 2SS no options. And from what I've read you aren't really allowed many options on the 1LE this gen.

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by newb

I'm not sure where you are getting low to mid 50's? There will not be many options available so unless you are saying the 1LE package is $10k plus the PDR at $1500 - $2000, I don't see $50k for a 1LE being possible. Not arguing, just trying to understand your numbers. Unless you are planning to add black emblems and taillights and every other checkbox available on the order form.

Originally Posted by Thor142

1ss 1LE was 37 ish before options.

I think it should land in between 1SS and 2SS no options. And from what I've read you aren't really allowed many options on the 1LE this gen.

yeah, I didn't have a clue what they went for in Gen5. But they are forcing some things that used to be options...Recaros, MRC...that's 4K right there...

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

yeah, I didn't have a clue what they went for in Gen5. But they are forcing some things that used to be options...Recaros, MRC...that's 4K right there...

Only if you buy them as stand alone options. Thats like saying what you pay for replacement Brembros is what GM pays for 50,000 of them. I'm pretty sure they can toss in all the equipment it comes standard with and keep it to a 3500 to 4500 option package. I hope so anyway. If the new 1SS 1LE starts creeping on 50k their gonna make some people sad.
A 50K 1LE and a 70K ZL1 is going to either have me modding my 1LE or snagging a C6 Z06.

[newb]

Originally Posted by Thor142

Only if you buy them as stand alone options. Thats like saying what you pay for replacement Brembros is what GM pays for 50,000 of them. I'm pretty sure they can toss in all the equipment it comes standard with and keep it to a 3500 to 4500 option package. I hope so anyway. If the new 1SS 1LE starts creeping on 50k their gonna make some people sad.
A 50K 1LE and a 70K ZL1 is going to either have me modding my 1LE or snagging a C6 Z06.

This... I can see it creeping to a $6k option but that still leaves a lot of room before the $50k mark. They have to keep a reasonable spread of pricing. And that's why I don't see them adding 2SS. A 2SS at $42K plus 1LE at $6k plus PDR at $1800 puts you within $10k (most likely) of a ZL1. Most people would probably just go ZL1 at that point

[Tr6]

It all depends on if you are willing to pay to play. Everything has pros and cons. SS is still a fantastic car, ZL1 is a whole other beast and at a whole other league. SS is the most "affordable" and most bang for the buck you will get. Can you mod it to get it LT4 levels? Hell yeah, you won't have any warranty and the reliability will always be questionable and not have the peace of mind for spending the same amount of money that you would SS modded vs stock ZL1 but with the ZL1 you will have full warranty and if you even mod it slightly, it will provide better power than SS.

It really all depends on your personal approach of it all. I've only spent 46.5 and that was MSRP. My entire power mod list will cost me less than 2 grand and only have about 440-460 rwhp/rwhq which to me is more than enough without having risking warranty, things breaking or having to upgrade stuff. Which is why, for the power and having full warranty, I will be going with a ZL1. They will already put down 600+ to the wheels, a couple simple mods and it'll be around 650 with warranty and no reliability questioning and done.

Cost of ownership will be much higher on the ZL1 than the SS (insurance, worse mpg thus more gas, repairs, tire cost since they are larger than SS, etc). But like I said with my very first sentence, you gotta pay to play.