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Old 02-18-2018, 10:47 PM   #15
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Likely not till 7th gen. The Corvette has not received a power bump since 2013 and I doubt Chevy would bump the Camaro up over the Corvette. My guess is we will see port and direct injection for 7th gen.
So you're absolutely certain the 2019 Corvette won't see a power increase? IMO, there is no chance GM let's Ford's 5.0L make more power than their 6.2L beyond a refresh. Even if they bump it to 465, they could just as easily bump the Vette to 470. Personally I'm hoping for 475 in the 2019.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:51 AM   #16
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So you're absolutely certain the 2019 Corvette won't see a power increase? IMO, there is no chance GM let's Ford's 5.0L make more power than their 6.2L beyond a refresh. Even if they bump it to 465, they could just as easily bump the Vette to 470. Personally I'm hoping for 475 in the 2019.
The 5.0 made more hp than the auto camaro in gen 5.

If the Corvette doesn't get a power bump, the Camaro won't either.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:01 AM   #17
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So you're absolutely certain the 2019 Corvette won't see a power increase? IMO, there is no chance GM let's Ford's 5.0L make more power than their 6.2L beyond a refresh. Even if they bump it to 465, they could just as easily bump the Vette to 470. Personally I'm hoping for 475 in the 2019.
GM has never been concerned with how much power the Camaro’s competition is making.

If the Corvette needs it, it happens. If the Corvette doesn’t need it, it doesn’t.
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GM has never been concerned with how much power the Camaro’s competition is making.

If the Corvette needs it, it happens. If the Corvette doesn’t need it, it doesn’t.
and while everyone around here likes to say they don't protect the Corvette like they used to, either way you slice it they are not going to do it for just Camaro and not the Corvette.

So need to see what Corvette has going on to see what happens to the Camaro.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:47 PM   #19
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So you're absolutely certain the 2019 Corvette won't see a power increase?
The 2019 Corvettes are already hitting the showroom floors now.
Nothing has changed with the power, with the exception of the new ZR-1 and its LT5


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The 5.0 made more hp than the auto camaro in gen 5.

If the Corvette doesn't get a power bump, the Camaro won't either.
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any info when we might see a bump in power
AFTER the base Corvette gets a bump.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:12 PM   #21
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So you're absolutely certain the 2019 Corvette won't see a power increase? IMO, there is no chance GM let's Ford's 5.0L make more power than their 6.2L beyond a refresh. Even if they bump it to 465, they could just as easily bump the Vette to 470. Personally I'm hoping for 475 in the 2019.
100% sure since the 19's are already out with no power bump, and really no significant changes.
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The issue that the Camaro has today has nothing to do with protecting the Corvette as in 2014 the most powerful vehicle at the chevy dealer was the 505BHP Z/28 Camaro and not the 460BHP Corvette.

The real issue comes down to investing the money to develop the engine, the Corvette gets priority still (and I disagree with this) and unless this has changed then this will still be the case.

On the other hand there is a case to be made that the 6.2L engine is getting revised if for no other reason then the 5.3L and 6.2L in the trucks are getting revised for 2019. GM has been tight lip about specs for those engines at this point which would suggest that they are still doing finalization on the tune and that there is a bump in power and torque for the Gen V engines.

I do think that the Camaro does need it and not just because of the 460BHP Mustang GT but also because of the announced Bullit Mustang with an est. 475BHP as well. I know that there is rumors about a 7 speed manual in the Camaro, you can make a case for this considering that the 6 speed Mustang is 1:1 in 5th gear and the Camaro is 1:1 in 4th gear. 7 speed transmission would give the Camaro a 1:1 in 5th gear while still giving those two over drive gears that GM loves.
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The issue that the Camaro has today has nothing to do with protecting the Corvette as in 2014 the most powerful vehicle at the chevy dealer was the 505BHP Z/28 Camaro and not the 460BHP Corvette.

The real issue comes down to investing the money to develop the engine, the Corvette gets priority still (and I disagree with this) and unless this has changed then this will still be the case.

On the other hand there is a case to be made that the 6.2L engine is getting revised if for no other reason then the 5.3L and 6.2L in the trucks are getting revised for 2019. GM has been tight lip about specs for those engines at this point which would suggest that they are still doing finalization on the tune and that there is a bump in power and torque for the Gen V engines.

I do think that the Camaro does need it and not just because of the 460BHP Mustang GT but also because of the announced Bullit Mustang with an est. 475BHP as well. I know that there is rumors about a 7 speed manual in the Camaro, you can make a case for this considering that the 6 speed Mustang is 1:1 in 5th gear and the Camaro is 1:1 in 4th gear. 7 speed transmission would give the Camaro a 1:1 in 5th gear while still giving those two over drive gears that GM loves.
That's not relevant since the Camaro was using an engine at the end of its live span. It was also the top of the line Camaro at the time, while the LT1 is the base engine and it is brand new.

The direct comparison is the LS9 to the LSA. The Camaro got the discount version. It did not get the best engine GM was making, even though its competition was making substantially more power.
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The issue that the Camaro has today has nothing to do with protecting the Corvette as in 2014 the most powerful vehicle at the chevy dealer was the 505BHP Z/28 Camaro and not the 460BHP Corvette.


That is not really relevant since they were not sharing that engine. They are not going to revise and redo the LT1 for the Camaro and keep the Corvette plodding along with the "old" LT1. If they are making any changes to the LT1 it will effect both vehicles since they are sharing it
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At most I can see them bumping it up to 460HP to match the corvette stingray. And that's more for the papers than anything.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:38 AM   #26
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Likely not till 7th gen. The Corvette has not received a power bump since 2013 and I doubt Chevy would bump the Camaro up over the Corvette. My guess is we will see port and direct injection for 7th gen.

huh, C6 Corvette was 430hp for the base model. The C7 Corvette went to 460hp for the base. The Gen 5 Camaro went from 426hp to Gen 6's 455hp.

So they Camaro got the same amount of HP bump as the Corvette.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:46 AM   #27
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huh, C6 Corvette was 430hp for the base model. The C7 Corvette went to 460hp for the base. The Gen 5 Camaro went from 426hp to Gen 6's 455hp.

So they Camaro got the same amount of HP bump as the Corvette.
I don't think that conflcits with what I was conveying (or trying to convey).

Is it possible the 2019 Camaro could get HP boost that will put it over the 2019 Corvette? I think it is unlikely especially since the 2019 Corvette was announced with no performance bump on the LT1 and the cars are already shipping/ordered.

It could be possible that the 2020 C7 could get a bump in power that could trickle down to the 2020 Camaro as well.

I just don't see it happening this year with the Camaro but you never know. I'm all for it, but it could piss off lots of loyal Corvette owners who have been hoping for performance bumps. The C7 has been out since 2013 with very little changes outside of adding the Grand Sport and ZR1.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:54 AM   #28
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The issue that the Camaro has today has nothing to do with protecting the Corvette as in 2014 the most powerful vehicle at the chevy dealer was the 505BHP Z/28 Camaro and not the 460BHP Corvette.

The real issue comes down to investing the money to develop the engine, the Corvette gets priority still (and I disagree with this) and unless this has changed then this will still be the case.

On the other hand there is a case to be made that the 6.2L engine is getting revised if for no other reason then the 5.3L and 6.2L in the trucks are getting revised for 2019. GM has been tight lip about specs for those engines at this point which would suggest that they are still doing finalization on the tune and that there is a bump in power and torque for the Gen V engines.

I do think that the Camaro does need it and not just because of the 460BHP Mustang GT but also because of the announced Bullit Mustang with an est. 475BHP as well. I know that there is rumors about a 7 speed manual in the Camaro, you can make a case for this considering that the 6 speed Mustang is 1:1 in 5th gear and the Camaro is 1:1 in 4th gear. 7 speed transmission would give the Camaro a 1:1 in 5th gear while still giving those two over drive gears that GM loves.
The Bullit is gonna be $$ though. You can't really compare it to a base Mustang GT or Camaro SS.

It would be very cool if GM bumped the HP on the SS 1LE models to, say 470-480 and did the same for the Z51 and Grand Sport Corvette's.
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