01-20-2013, 02:33 PM | #29 |
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I like the 1LE on the SS. It gives people who can't afford a ZL1 or possible Z28 better performance than a stock SS.
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01-20-2013, 02:37 PM | #30 | |
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The SS should be 450 (N/A 6.2 LT1) the z/28 should be 525 N/A 7.0 Ls7 replacement) and the ZL1 should be 615-630 Supercharged 6.2 LT4
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01-20-2013, 02:38 PM | #31 | ||
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I just wrote down what I'd enjoy seeing. +1. They did a great thing developing the 1LE package. Maybe they do it again in 6th-gen but don't call it 1LE? |
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01-20-2013, 02:52 PM | #32 |
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As for the Z28 engine, I wonder what the costs would be if GM to the LT1, CNC ported the heads, dropped in a slightly different cam and deactivated the AFM.
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01-20-2013, 02:56 PM | #33 |
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Heads and cam would be subject to emissions more than cost...AFM deactivation is as simple as a computer reflash...but most all of the components will probably still be present, because the block was designed for it from the beginning.
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01-20-2013, 02:59 PM | #34 |
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The BOSS 302 got CNC heads and a new cams yet was emissions legal. No reason for GM not being able to do the same thing.
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01-20-2013, 03:12 PM | #35 | |
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And there are a lot of things different between the way Ford and GM approaches powertrain...it's hard to compare the two apples for apples. |
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01-20-2013, 03:20 PM | #36 |
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I would hope a 3700lb car with 615hp would be faster than 11.7
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01-20-2013, 03:22 PM | #37 | |
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01-20-2013, 03:22 PM | #38 | |
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01-20-2013, 04:13 PM | #39 | ||
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Because you know what I always say: Those who know something, don't talk. And since I don't know anything - I'm free to speculate just like the 'days of old'. Thought I'd have a little fun with this thread. What's MOST interesting to me...is that nobody, so far, has had a cow over the 4-cylinder turbo model. Quote:
Rumor has it the CTS-V will be getting bigger...which means heavier. To keep the same performance and compete against BMW and Audi, it'll need more power than the current LSA can offer. Rumor also has it that the Corvette will once more (eventually) have a Z06 and ZR1 models. Looks like the car didn't get significantly lighter as we had thoguht, so both will need more power than the current LS9...in order to improve and compete. In my mind...this offers some interesting benefits for Camaro.... The LT1 engine we know has 450+hp, and increased efficiency...if the above rumors are true, I think it would be common sense that they'll develop an engine with ~540-550 hp for the C7 Z06, and another in the neighborhood of ~660-700hp, to replace the LS9 for the C7 ZR1, and the next-gen Cadillac CTS... Since we're pretty sure we know the Camaro will be based on the Alpha platform due to the Lansing Grand River announcement...we can assume it'll get a little smaller and lighter. So...The 450+hp LT1 can power an entry-level V8 model, call it SS for now... The ~550hp Z06 engine can power the lighter, Camaro ZL1... And perhaps the Z28 can be a model that tweaks the engine with some intake/exhaust components to increase output of the LT1 SS by 20-30hp, incorporates features from the hypothetical ZL1 like carbon fiber components & other weight-saving features, MR suspension, drivetrain components, and sticky/big wheels & tires. Then, the 1LE package, if offered, would simply be what it is today...a competiton-legal "track pack" for the SS. What do you think wildpaws? I appreciate your input on this model name thing....and what they should be. I admit....I REALLY want to own a Z28 Camaro...but I don't need the power or cost of a ZL1 to get it... |
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01-20-2013, 07:42 PM | #41 |
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You guys want a Z28 so badly that you're throwing the SS out of the lineup.
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01-20-2013, 07:55 PM | #42 |
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hopefully chevy feels comfortable with the direct injection vvt lt1 in the vette and the camaro gets it as a handmedown for 6th gen. a z28 both current gen and next with a ls7 would be sweet as well. hopefully chevy makes a supercharged vette in next couple of years so the next gen camaro can release a zl1 2 years in to the gen with that handmedown as well.
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