[Chazzz]

3K miles on my 2017 1LT V6 A8 with absolutely zero issues of any kind to date. Even so I would personally advise against any A8 Camaro, new or pre owned. Not that they all will one day develop problems, but I honestly do not believe they have a long term fix for the issues if they should ever arise. Sorry but in my eyes transmission flushes to get you through the warranty period doesn't constitute a long term fix to a very possible long term problem. I'll more than likely be trading or selling in the spring.

[SS376]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

This has been going around for years. Usually where there is smoke there is fire. If you are asking if I know who their stock broker is then the answer is no.

If it's been going around for years it should be easy for you to provide a source. If you can't provide one I'll assume you just made it up.

[Chazzz]

Originally Posted by SS376

If it's been going around for years it should be easy for you to provide a source. If you can't provide one I'll assume you just made it up.

It doesn't take a genius to see that CR was being more than kind with their calling out the Camaros A8 issues as just minor. No doubt in my mind with the issues at hand this car deserves to be right where it is, and that is one of the ten least reliable vehicles made that money can buy! We can now start to see how all this in my opinion deserved bad press is going to negatively affect the future resale values of our cars.

[camaro5]

It's not the editorial opinion of Consumer Reports, it's a survey of actual owners

How Does CR Get Its Reliability Information?

Where Is the Data From?

Consumer Reports obtains its reliability data from an Annual Questionnaire that is sent to subscribers to CR.org and Consumer Reports magazine.
In all, we received responses on over 640,000 vehicles in our latest survey.

How Is the Survey Conducted?

The Consumer Reports National Research Center conducts the survey each spring.

In the questionnaire, we ask subscribers to note any problems with their cars that occurred in the past 12 months.

They are asked to identify problems that they considered serious (because of cost, failure, safety, or downtime).
We ask them to include problems covered by warranty, but not the ones resulting from accident damage or due solely to recall.

Respondents check off problems from a list of trouble areas, ranging from the engine and transmission to climate system, brakes, electrical system, and power accessories.
They also tell us specifically what their experiences were to help us understand precisely what problems they are having.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...liability-faq/

[SS376]

Originally Posted by Chazzz

It doesn't take a genius to see that CR was being more than kind with their calling out the Camaros A8 issues as just minor. No doubt in my mind with the issues at hand this car deserves to be right where it is, and that is one of the ten least reliable vehicles made that money can buy! We can now start to see how all this in my opinion deserved bad press is going to negatively affect the future resale values of our cars.

Agreed. I was trying to get the other poster to prove his ridiculous theory that CR is operating some kind of stock market scam that somehow only favors Toyota

[Chazzz]

Sadly V8-V4 shudder is only one of the issues the A8 is encountering. There are also many I-4 owners on this forum having frustrating problems with the A8. If anyone wants to get an idea of how the new A10 is performing for some new Ford pickup owners, Google F150 A10 issues and read a few posts on the F150 forum. Let's hope the bugs get worked out by the 2019 refresh!

[JamesNoBrakes]

Some cars are not meant to be autos. I fully agree that at the highest levels of performance these days, autos are the fastest way, but that takes levels of refinement and performance that usually don't trickle down to cars at these price points.

[Cameron27]

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[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Cameron27

I would definitely be concerned about the A8 transmission if I were you. It rolled out in the 2016 Camaro, and is purported to be cycled out with the 2019 Camaro. That speaks volumes.

The tech who didn't repair my transmission even said "This problem usually happens with the SS models". And he was trying to downplay my issue (he was trying to tell me he hadn't seen it in a V6 model).

If I could go back in time, I'd go with a manual. Or, I'd be very selective about test driving an automatic Camaro, I'd run the transmission through a ton of shifting tests on a test drive.

The part in BOLD RED. No, this does not speak volumes. The addition of the 10-speed to the Camaro lineup was planned before the 1st 8-speed Camaro rolled off the assembly line. This was planned for fuel economy and performance reasons, not because of anything quality related.

The 8-speed will still be used in high volume, much higher than Camaro could provide, in a number of other vehicles. Both 8AT and 10AT will continue to exist in GM products.

[Johnwon]

I think you need to read any review and realize that some are bias and some are not. I am on the survey panels of consumer reports since I subscribe to their magazines and have completed two surveys on my car now. In both, I reported that I had warranty work done on it (throw out bearing and rear carrier both were replaced within 12 months of ownership and now that it's getting cold again I am starting to hear the rear carrier noise when turning in my subdivision before the rear warms up in the morning coming into year 2 of ownership). Have I loved every bit about the car? YES! I would certainly buy another one and would also recommend it to a friend because of how much I enjoy the car. With that being said, I told my wife that I think we should make sure to extend the warranty to cover the power train for a few extra years, because that rear carrier was over $3,000 and it looks like it could continue to be problematic and the warranty would be much cheaper than the chance of needing a 3rd down the road.

The shifting of the A8 isn't perfect when it expects you to do one thing and you're doing something else (with the gas pedal), but it's not something that bothers be, because it recovers very quickly. We have a lot of stop and go traffic and I prefer the A8 in that traffic and it's always shifted perfectly in that traffic. I love driving stick, but prefer the A8 with the traffic around here.

[EdTheEnthusiast]

Thank you for all the responses!

It seems like I will have to test drive the A8 transmission thoroughly if I plan to go with that. I will also have to look into detailed service records to see if it was in the shop for transmission complaints. It will also most likely be helpful to have a pre-purchase inspection completed as well.

The manual definitely seems like the best solution to this, or go-around, so if I don't find a proper A8, I will have to consider an M6. Since I don't know how to drive manual, I will try to find a friend or family member who can teach me lol. But all these issues with the A8 makes me wonder if there are issues with the M6 as well, not as bad but issues are issues. Although I have not seen to many M6 issue posts on the forum. Has anyone had issues with their M6?

It seems as though CR is not very accurate when it comes to newer cars, but more accurate for cars that are 3-4 years old. But that is just an assumption.

I have made a tally chart of those who say A8 and those who say M6 (those who own A8 but are unhappy with it are counted as M6). So far the tally is very close to 50/50.

If anyone hasn't already, please post a reply answering the question I started the thread with. It really does help a lot, and I could not be more appreciated with all this help!

[EdTheEnthusiast]

I also forgot to ask, has anyone tried the paddle shifts on the A8 transmission? Did the problems sort of go away?

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by EdTheEnthusiast

I also forgot to ask, has anyone tried the paddle shifts on the A8 transmission? Did the problems sort of go away?

I think that most of us that have A8 have at some time or another used the paddles. I use them fairly often to downshift when decelerating. Exhaust sounds freaking awesome when you do that. Especially with the top down.

[Chazzz]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

The part in BOLD RED. No, this does not speak volumes. The addition of the 10-speed to the Camaro lineup was planned before the 1st 8-speed Camaro rolled off the assembly line. This was planned for fuel economy and performance reasons, not because of anything quality related.

The 8-speed will still be used in high volume, much higher than Camaro could provide, in a number of other vehicles. Both 8AT and 10AT will continue to exist in GM products.

There is also an all new A9 transmission that Ford/GM jointly developed for FWD application. It appears GM is rolling it out very slowly just as it is with the A10, as so far it is showing up only with very limited availability such as their diesel cars. Makes me curious as to why all the caution with making these two new state of the art fuel saving transmissions available. Aside from the possible quality control issues and problems one thing is nearly certain, and that is the more gears in an automatic the more unpleasant and sometimes downright annoying gear searching, and all for the benefit of a slightly better EPA rating. I realize these aren't hand built but let's at least hope for a little more refinement than we seem to have with the A8.