2017 Camaro ZL1 (6th gen) spied! - Page 13

Sledgehammer70 · 09-15-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by obzidian

Again, of course it does if there target is lower than a current engine option.

It doesn't make sense to me!! I want a Zl1 to yield 750hp++ and crush everything!

But I/we don't have that kind of sway.

But a ZL1 will never be that. Now a Z/28 on the other hand.

Sledgehammer70 · 09-15-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DanSS24

Couldn't tell if the brakes were carbon ceramics or not. If it's not, it's gotta most likely be the ZL1.

They could be testing brake options.

Z28sr2fast4yall · 09-15-2015, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Wait, what? The GT350 is supposedly in line with a C7 Z51 and a GT350R is a bit fast than a 5th gen. Z/28. I full anticipate a GT350R to hand the Z/28 its ass too.

Key term... "Supposedly"... Except, the gt350r-c lost its debut, to not 1 z28r, but 5.... The gt350's fastest time, they claim, is still slower than the z28's claimed fastest time. The difference is Chevy does official numbers, videos, stats, etc... The z28 posted a lot faster times, but it wasn't recorded so they didn't count it. Ford, doesn't care... They claim it with no proof... Camaro wins all day... And that's the 6 gen mustang vs the 5 gen camaro... The 6 gen camaro will dominate the 6 gen mustang... No sweat

obzidian · 09-15-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

But a ZL1 will never be that. Now a Z/28 on the other hand.

Why not??? I can name three reasons why it "should be", in my eyes:

1. Hellcat 707hp

2. GT500 700hp+

3. AMERICA!

Autonaut · 09-15-2015, 05:29 PM

I'll take a guess.

It's the new z28 (based on hpsix tag)
ZL1 and Z28 are about to be the same (based on what happened to the vette)
Pwr 6.54 means it is somewhere around 600 horsepower and the engine will be named something other than LT4 (because it wont be an LT4 much like the LSA was not an LS9)

The only thing that would suprise me would be for them to develop a lighter SS and a more powerful higher revving n/a engine.

Either options will be sweet. I believe GM has proved to us they know what they're doing with the performance division and will do anything they can within the division to keep us happy..

Bhobbs · 09-15-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by obzidian

Ok..... but what if they want one for only 550hp???

When has the General limited themselves to only two v8 options at one given point.

In 2011 you had the l99, ls3, lsa, ls9, ls7 and all of the vortec derivatives. All engines that fit their target hp for a specific vehicle goals/performance category.

Let's not forget that the LTx's are fairly new so the fact that we may have more engines in development unknown to us (454ci LT8/L88 ??) is very real.

The L99 is no longer needed because the LT1 already had AFM. The LSA is no longer needed because the LT4 is cheaper than the LS9. The LS7 is not being replaced because they couldn't meet the Z06 power goals with a naturally aspirated engine.

I'm talking about LTx engines. The EcoTec3 engines are different.

They may be developing more LTx engines but I would be very surprised, unless a Grand Sport is being worked on.

obzidian · 09-15-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Z28sr2fast4yall

Key term... "Supposedly"... Except, the gt350r-c lost its debut, to not 1 z28r, but 5.... The gt350's fastest time, they claim, is still slower than the z28's claimed fastest time. The difference is Chevy does official numbers, videos, stats, etc... The z28 posted a lot faster times, but it wasn't recorded so they didn't count it. Ford, doesn't care... They claim it with no proof... Camaro wins all day... And that's the 6 gen mustang vs the 5 gen camaro... The 6 gen camaro will dominate the 6 gen mustang... No sweat

Are we talking about "ring times?"

Is the "unofficial time" the one posted on Horsepower Kings???

Z28sr2fast4yall · 09-15-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by obzidian

Gotcha!!

What was that time?? What are they saying??

They claim... It is 7:32.19... Perfect conditions

Z28 ran 7:37.47... That's was in the rain, on the track with rain all week.

But!! Chevy has stated the z28 ran a consistent 7:31, in perfect conditions... But they had already released their time, and didn't care to re do it...

And I just read, ford has not claimed that number... They've actually had no word on an official time yet.

KaBoom1701 · 09-15-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Z28sr2fast4yall

They claim... It is 7:32.19... Perfect conditions

Z28 ran 7:37.47... That's was in the rain, on the track with rain all week.

But!! Chevy has stated the z28 ran a consistent 7:31, in perfect conditions... But they had already released their time, and didn't care to re do it...

And I just read, ford has not claimed that number... They've actually had no word on an official time yet.

I like the ZL1 in your signature.

oklapike · 09-15-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The L99 is no longer needed because the LT1 already had AFM. The LSA is no longer needed because the LT4 is cheaper than the LS9. The LS7 is not being replaced because they couldn't meet the Z06 power goals with a naturally aspirated engine.

I'm talking about LTx engines. The EcoTec3 engines are different.

They may be developing more LTx engines but I would be very surprised, unless a Grand Sport is being worked on.

IIRC, the only thing that GM has said regarding the Gen V engines is that the only displacements would be 5.3 and 6.2.

DanSS24 · 09-15-2015, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tran

Updated with on track photos!

Based on this photo, it does not look like a square tire set-up. So I really believe this is more a ZL1 than a Z/28. Plus I also think that Chevy will not use that rear spoiler for the Z/28, and go similar to the C7 Z06 vette. Just my .02 cents.

obzidian · 09-15-2015, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The L99 is no longer needed because the LT1 already had AFM. The LSA is no longer needed because the LT4 is cheaper than the LS9. The LS7 is not being replaced because they couldn't meet the Z06 power goals with a naturally aspirated engine.

I'm talking about LTx engines. The EcoTec3 engines are different.

They may be developing more LTx engines but I would be very surprised, unless a Grand Sport is being worked on.

RLHMARINES · 09-15-2015, 06:00 PM

That pic angle is deceiving and not one to use for a good comparison plus that spoiler is wider with a higher rear pitch than the one from the regular Camaro SS spoiler.

SpeedIsLife · 09-15-2015, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by obzidian

Are we talking about "ring times?"

Is the "unofficial time" the one posted on Horsepower Kings???

He went off about the GT350R-C as used by the Multimatic team in the CTSCC. He then failed to mention the GT350R-C kicking the crap out of the Z/28.R's in the two races that followed.

Ford doesn't release ring times so he's also saying that means GM wins.

Basically it was a worthless post

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Autonaut Drives: El camino Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: World Posts: 193	I'll take a guess. It's the new z28 (based on hpsix tag) ZL1 and Z28 are about to be the same (based on what happened to the vette) Pwr 6.54 means it is somewhere around 600 horsepower and the engine will be named something other than LT4 (because it wont be an LT4 much like the LSA was not an LS9) The only thing that would suprise me would be for them to develop a lighter SS and a more powerful higher revving n/a engine. Either options will be sweet. I believe GM has proved to us they know what they're doing with the performance division and will do anything they can within the division to keep us happy..

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