12-03-2012, 05:18 PM | #71 | |
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'You people' that you are referring too are pretty familiar.. Doesn't mean we want a 2.0T in a Camaro. Let me say that again, a CAMARO. What's more important to sales? Your opinion (as a seller) or our opinion (as your target market). Now I'm no marketing major, but I think it goes without saying that our opinion is far more important. |
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12-03-2012, 05:19 PM | #72 | |
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Alpha Platform gen 6 base model with 2.0 turbo= 25,000 15k in motor work, exhaust, and bigger turbo = 600 plus hp Alpha platform gen 6 SS model LS3=40K 430hp |
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12-03-2012, 05:35 PM | #73 |
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The car I traded for my SS was a 2.0 turbo, VW Audi have up to 265/ 258 hp/tq AND all wheel drive, give me this in the Camaro at 3600 lbs. and I would buy, hate parking it in winter now.
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12-03-2012, 05:37 PM | #74 |
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If it's fast and still looks decent, I don't care what engines they drop in. You people have to remember that GM knows they already gave us old timers our car to relive our youth. Now they need to get something out there that young people want to keep the fire burning for GM products. Every manufacturer is heading this direction and there is nothing we can do about it. Thank high fuel mileage standards and high fuel prices for what is going on.
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12-03-2012, 05:38 PM | #75 |
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I test drove an ATS with the turbo 2.0L 4cyl. It's just as quick as the Camaro V6, and I drove an automatic ATS (my Camaro is stick). I'm sure it would have felt quicker with the stick.
The ATS goes around corners way better than my Camaro. The difference is crazy. I'd pick a turbo ATS dressed up as a Camaro over what I have right now, and that's essentially what we'll get with the 6th gen. |
12-03-2012, 05:38 PM | #76 |
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12-03-2012, 05:43 PM | #77 |
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It is going to be hard to top this beauty!!! Even Scott (F-Bodfather) mentioned that at are meeting !!
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12-03-2012, 06:12 PM | #78 |
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4 cylinder Camaro= GARBAGE!!!!!
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12-03-2012, 06:16 PM | #79 |
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No one in here can honestly tell me that the Regal 2.0T isn't fast. No one in here can honestly tell me the Cobalt 2.0T wasn't fast. GM didn't do this to the current Camaro due to simple physics. Mass requires a certain amount of acceleration to move the way a Camaro moves. With less mass, less acceleration is necessary to still be fun.
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12-03-2012, 06:16 PM | #80 | |
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One more from my friend Terminator 2 that tuned this Sky. 368 hp, stock turbo 4 banger LNF. 4.1 sec 60-100.
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/a...616_181926.jpg I want a V-8 in my Camaro too, just saying it's a viable alternative for the current V-6 replacement. I'm not sold on the DI due to valve coking issues, I fought it for the 65k miles I had on my LNF. Also lost a DI injector seal or two at 40k on an ethanol blend. Seals have improved since 2008. I've owned V-8 musclecars since my '65 Malibu SS in '74 but the tuned LNF was the fastest thing I ever had. It would walk away from Phat Bee 60-100.
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12-03-2012, 06:20 PM | #81 |
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To me, the 5th gen is one of the best looking cars on the road. Having said that, I can't wait to see what they do with the alpha platform. I don't think they can mess it up, I have no doubt it will look great.
Here's what I think it will be.. Base: 2.0T 280-300HP, 3300lbs $22k SS: LT1 V8 470HP, 3500lbs $30k Z28: LT4 v8 600HP, 3600 lbs $50k When the ATSV comes out with what I'm guessing will be a na LT1, we will see a preview of what a 6th gen SS will run like. They may squeeze a 3.6 in there somewhere, but I don't see where it would be needed. I think they are getting away from offering 5 different engines in the same car. I don't see why so many of you are so hell bent against a 4 cylinder. If you don't like it, just get the v8. But MOST people that just want a Camaro because its a nice car and they like the way it looks, its a great idea. Same concept as the 5th gen 3.6, most people that drive them have no idea what engine is in it, and never go past 50% throttle or past 4k rpm. And that's fine, that's what they like. The extra mpg is just an extra kicker for them. |
12-03-2012, 06:34 PM | #82 | |
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I'm just happy that there will be a 6th Gen. and the car won't get canned again!
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12-03-2012, 06:40 PM | #83 | |
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2) A 2.0T Alpha-based Camaro would perform as well as or perhaps BETTER than an LFX Zeta-based Camaro. 3) Target markets evolve. Considering what Ford and the rest of the competition is doing, the 2.0T is right in line with expectations.
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12-03-2012, 06:50 PM | #84 |
I ♥ my Camaro
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Sooo...if you want to save gas why do you buy muscle cars in the first place?
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