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Old 04-13-2015, 10:02 PM   #1
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Will the V6 model have a track pack?

Does anyone have an idea if Chevy would release a track pack for the v6 buyers? If they do, I hope it is first year. There are many people that would buy the v6 because of low cost of entry, but also want good handling. Chevy would have people like me that can't afford a V8 with a track pack, but could by buying the v6. I hope Camaro doesn't go the Mustang route and make a turbo 4 the mid engine option. I hope Camaro makes the V6 the mid option which should be based off the new Cadillac V6. 335hp with a lower weight should be a great first new car for me. Any opinion on this would be great.
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:34 PM   #2
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I think Chevy lost focus with the 5th Gen 3.6L ....... they should have done what Ford did and have available with the 6-speed Auto a "option" of a Posi rear with better gearing ...... then step it up a notch and have a 3.73/3.91 rear gear option for us V-6 guys ....
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:42 PM   #3
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My guess would be no. If there is a 1LE package, I doubt they would have anything similar for the V-6....They are still heavily tracking the V-8s...that still seems to be where all the goodies go....Probably more a cost thing...

...But you never know, they might do something for the V-6 if they feel it will help them compete with whatever Ford is doing....

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Old 04-13-2015, 11:06 PM   #4
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I think Chevy lost focus with the 5th Gen 3.6L ....... they should have done what Ford did and have available with the 6-speed Auto a "option" of a Posi rear with better gearing ...... then step it up a notch and have a 3.73/3.91 rear gear option for us V-6 guys ....
Ford dropped the performance pack for the V6 in their new gen. I hope they offer some kind of handling or performance package for V6 6th gen. If Chevy wants it to go head to head with the ecoboost, then the V6 will need it as an option.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:52 PM   #5
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It's possible only because of the shared development possibility with the ATS. Or possibly just ATS-V parts. The 5th gen had no one to share the cost unlike the 6th gen.


With that being said, I doubt it. The V6 is the volume seller to fund the tinkering on the v8 cars. Always has been. And the v6 is better than ever so they are less worried about it. And if you really want better performance, (assuming they continue to) they offer the 1LE suspension or Z-28 that can be retrofitted to any of the cars.
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:32 PM   #6
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I disagree with anyone thinking the V6 won't get a performance pack option.

Will it get a full on track option? Maybe not. But the V6 deserves a performance pack option similar to the EcoBoost and I think we'll see it. (A non-SS model was spotted testing at Nurburgring)

Ford did it for the last gen V6 Mustang, and now for the EcoBoost and not the V6 (The old V6 with PP tests quicker in the 1/4 than the current EcoBoost does and I don't think Ford wanted to jeopardize sales of the EcoBoost) and Dodge also had a performance oriented package for its V6.

To me, it doesn't make sense NOT to offer it. I believe the V6 will not be a "base" engine, but instead will go up against the EcoBoost. So Chevrolet should offer a package that consists of lower gearing, and suspension components (and possibly SS brakes?).

A 335HP, 3,500-ish lb Camaro V6 with something around 3.55 gears and suspension upgrades would be a quick and fun car. A few simple mods and you'd be looking at 350+ HP. Definitely quicker in the 1/4 than a 2015 stock EcoBoost.

A bit off topic, but just for fun I ran some weight to HP numbers.

2015 Camaro SS (L99) - 400HP - 3,900 lbs. 9.75 lbs/HP
2016 Camaro V6 - 350HP (mods) - 3,500 lbs. 10 lbs/HP

It ends up being pretty close. Of course...TQ is a different story.

Current 2015 Camaro V6 - 323HP - 3700lbs (that's being generous) 11.45 lbs/HP

Another just for fun:
2016 Camaro SS - 450HP - 3,750lbs - 8.33 lbs/HP
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:08 PM   #7
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Why though? Wouldn't it just be easier to start with the V8 track pack? Seems like if youre buying the car for performance you don't want a V6, seems like a gas mileage thing.
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:44 PM   #8
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I disagree with anyone thinking the V6 won't get a performance pack option.

Will it get a full on track option? Maybe not. But the V6 deserves a performance pack option similar to the EcoBoost and I think we'll see it. (A non-SS model was spotted testing at Nurburgring)

Ford did it for the last gen V6 Mustang, and now for the EcoBoost and not the V6 (The old V6 with PP tests quicker in the 1/4 than the current EcoBoost does and I don't think Ford wanted to jeopardize sales of the EcoBoost) and Dodge also had a performance oriented package for its V6.

To me, it doesn't make sense NOT to offer it. I believe the V6 will not be a "base" engine, but instead will go up against the EcoBoost. So Chevrolet should offer a package that consists of lower gearing, and suspension components (and possibly SS brakes?).

A 335HP, 3,500-ish lb Camaro V6 with something around 3.55 gears and suspension upgrades would be a quick and fun car. A few simple mods and you'd be looking at 350+ HP. Definitely quicker in the 1/4 than a 2015 stock EcoBoost.

A bit off topic, but just for fun I ran some weight to HP numbers.

2015 Camaro SS (L99) - 400HP - 3,900 lbs. 9.75 lbs/HP
2016 Camaro V6 - 350HP (mods) - 3,500 lbs. 10 lbs/HP

It ends up being pretty close. Of course...TQ is a different story.

Current 2015 Camaro V6 - 323HP - 3700lbs (that's being generous) 11.45 lbs/HP

Another just for fun:
2016 Camaro SS - 450HP - 3,750lbs - 8.33 lbs/HP

I hope you are right and they do something for the V-6...A new gen, lighter car, etc., etc.,....And I'm surprised nobody mentioned the "other" non-ss car at the Ring....You might be on to something...

GM has more v-6 engines going now than V-8s...not to mention the possible Turbo I-4...With that, sales of non-v-8 Camaros will be at an all time high...

They may have some track goodies for those, only thing is they will probably be on the expensive side....and you know how Chevy likes to keep price differences in line with model and engine differences....

Good luck, though...I'm rooting for you...You're our point-man for the V-6...lol
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:56 PM   #9
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Why though? Wouldn't it just be easier to start with the V8 track pack? Seems like if youre buying the car for performance you don't want a V6, seems like a gas mileage thing.
Basically cost is the main reason, but I don't see why a v6 can't handle well like a V8. The alpha chassis should be pretty good though.
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Basically cost is the main reason, but I don't see why a v6 can't handle well like a V8. The alpha chassis should be pretty good though.
Yep. Not just fuel(not having to run 91+ octane) cost but lower msrp and insurance rates. Plus you don't need a V8 to enjoy a good handling drivers car.
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Old 04-14-2015, 05:00 PM   #11
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Does anyone have an idea if Chevy would release a track pack for the v6 buyers? If they do, I hope it is first year. There are many people that would buy the v6 because of low cost of entry, but also want good handling. Chevy would have people like me that can't afford a V8 with a track pack, but could by buying the v6. I hope Camaro doesn't go the Mustang route and make a turbo 4 the mid engine option. I hope Camaro makes the V6 the mid option which should be based off the new Cadillac V6. 335hp with a lower weight should be a great first new car for me. Any opinion on this would be great.

I think they should, to counter the ecoboost which has such an option.
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Old 04-14-2015, 05:14 PM   #12
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Yep. Not just fuel(not having to run 91+ octane) cost but lower msrp and insurance rates. Plus you don't need a V8 to enjoy a good handling drivers car.
You understand. I'll be actually driving this car pretty good and if at my young age cost wasn't an issue I would go for the v8 no doubt. I just want a fun car to drive and handle like its on rails. The Cadillac ATS seems to fit that description so I'm hoping a V6 Camaro on an Alpha chassis will deliver. I felt like the gen V v6 felt too heavy. Im not sure if I'll get manual or automatic. I've only driven manual twice and it was in a Jeep Wrangler. If I do get a new Camaro it will likely be a 2017 model new or 2016 model slightly used.
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Old 04-14-2015, 05:21 PM   #13
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My prediction is that when the 6th Gen V6 comes out, many will buy it and get told they should have bought the V8 when asking for performance tips.
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Old 04-14-2015, 05:33 PM   #14
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Well the answer is probably in today's Gen 5. The parts are there and simply not offered.

Chevrolet would have to do an about face to do so.

Not sure about the axle swap, but it seems reasonable though to upgrade brakes and chassis. But JMO.
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