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Infern0 · 01-04-2012, 06:03 AM

Yes you can.
Yes you will get a CEL because of O2 sensor placement (not harmful).
No you will NOT be utilizing all the power you should be getting from the headers.

jdenotter · 01-04-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Infern0

Yes you can.
Yes you will get a CEL because of O2 sensor placement (not harmful).
No you will NOT be utilizing all the power you should be getting from the headers.

Thank you! Anyway not to get a cel light?

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Infern0 · 01-04-2012, 11:27 AM

Just one....tune.

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Originally Posted by jdenotter

Thank you! Anyway not to get a cel light?

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sscamaro · 01-04-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Asylum

The Long Tube Header Package.
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Header Package, 1-3/4" Long Tube 2010 V8 Camaro w/Installation Kit/High-Flow Cats/PowerFlo-X Crossover Pipe Assembly
http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?P=30213

?? The Question ??
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Since tuning the vehicle will result in a complete loss of warranty I am trying to choose mods that wont ruin my entire vehicles warranty. This means that tuning the car is simply out of the question for the next little while....

I know a lot of you guys are running Long Tubes and the package I've decided is listed above. My question is how do you guys get around the 02 Sensor? I've been told that Long Tube Headers ''remove'' the cats, and some ''push'' the cats further down the car.

I believe the headers linked above don't remove the cats, just push them down further, will this throw a code, and if so do I need an 02 Simulator?

Thanks for the help guys!

You should use 1 7/8" headers.

geaux_tigerss · 01-04-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SA CHEVY

The feedback I've been getting from people with LT's and HF cats is that it's taking anywhere from 250-500 miles for the lights to come on. Never know though because I'm in the same boat, I really want to do LT's but don't want to risk the tune because I can't pay to play if anything breaks!

I went about 1800 before a CEL.

I hate to break it to you, but a dealer can refuse to work based on LT's alone without a tune. Hell, I've heard of guys on here claiming denials based on "driving it too hard." If you can't afford to fix it, I would just not mess with it at all.

JANNETTYRACING · 01-04-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by geaux_tigerss

I went about 1800 before a CEL.

I hate to break it to you, but a dealer can refuse to work based on LT's alone without a tune. Hell, I've heard of guys on here claiming denials based on "driving it too hard." If you can't afford to fix it, I would just not mess with it at all.

Well Said.

mlgreen · 01-04-2012, 03:14 PM

I live in an emissions state where they use obd2 to test but they dont do visual checks. With longtubes, highflow cats and a proper tune can i pass emissions?

Eric Baker · 01-04-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mlgreen

I live in an emissions state where they use obd2 to test but they dont do visual checks. With longtubes, highflow cats and a proper tune can i pass emissions?

Absolutely.

Infern0 · 01-05-2012, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Baker

Absolutely.

+1.

I'm in North Virginia, same thing. Passed the same day as install and tune.

mlgreen · 01-05-2012, 03:41 PM

Awesome! Camaro guys have it made. On my Charger R/T you can't get away with longtubes and high flows through emissions because even with a tune if you disable any of the o2 sensors it will show up. You don't have complete control with tuning to completely eliminate the sensors with LX cars.

geaux_tigerss · 02-07-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mlgreen

Awesome! Camaro guys have it made. On my Charger R/T you can't get away with longtubes and high flows through emissions because even with a tune if you disable any of the o2 sensors it will show up. You don't have complete control with tuning to completely eliminate the sensors with LX cars.

Yeah, I heard the challenger ECMs are really locked down. It's kind of messed up that dodge would do that with a car that is practically guaranteed to be modded.

RANGERGOD · 02-08-2012, 05:47 AM

How has you guys gas mileage been since installing the long tubes?

geaux_tigerss · 02-08-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RANGERGOD

How has you guys gas mileage been since installing the long tubes?

Down quite a bit. An unexpected side effect of the long tubes was a right foot that seems to have doubled in weight.

Seriously, though, 70mph before got me about 21 mpg, 70mph after gets the same.

Good luck trying to keep out of the throttle for a while after install.

RANGERGOD · 02-08-2012, 12:32 PM

awesome!

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