Corvette vs. Camaro SC volume? (pics inside)

Eric SS · 03-23-2016, 02:08 PM

Someone else noticed this as well. Seems like the SC has a much larger lid on the Camaro. That's never a bad thing.

More efficient at higher RPM's and capable of more power maybe?

Corvette:

Camaro is attached. Thanks to user LS6-M22 for the screengrabs:

Nataphen · 03-23-2016, 02:18 PM

I bet the SC is the same and the intercooler is just better on the Camaro.

LSLT_Powered26 · 03-23-2016, 02:23 PM

Omg, one can only dream they decided to throw that tiny 1.7L in trash where it belongs!

Eric SS · 03-23-2016, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataphen

I bet the SC is the same and the intercooler is just better on the Camaro.

You're probably right but You never know. Here is what the Vette looks like with the lid removed. The highest part is definitely not the intercoolers

Nataphen · 03-23-2016, 03:45 PM

Well, fingers crossed for you guys. I'll be watching for the outcome. I'm sticking with the 1LE, but a ZL1 that's got a better blower than the halo car would be cool.

*mlee* · 03-23-2016, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric SS

You're probably right but You never know. Here is what the Vette looks like with the lid removed. The highest part is definitely not the intercoolers

Not with the Vette, but extend them up and they would be in the Camaro.

hotlap · 03-23-2016, 06:53 PM

The Vette has the rotors recessed deep to keep the height low. It's possible that they are only optimizing for the Camaro by moving it higher for better cooling but that's a lot of effort and still a new SC. If your going to go through the effort bigger makes more sense for the car.

The rotor placement is discussed in this excellent video.

Building GM's most powerful Engine Ever, the 650hp LT4 V8!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLtZNtvc1Aw

DrkPhx · 03-23-2016, 07:09 PM

Not only is it taller, but it's actually bigger. On the ZO6 you can see how the back part has a curve to allow for clearance by the cowl. The ZL1 doesn't have that. Nice.

ilirg · 03-23-2016, 08:12 PM

My only question is where are the rest of the bolts holding down the lid on the ZL1 engine? There are 15 bolts around the edge of the Z06 lid, unless it's just the angle?

Never mind I see them now, in this pic you can see how much higher it is over the bolts, and that it covers the entire blower equally.

ilirg · 03-23-2016, 08:17 PM

Here is the CTS V engine, looks like the Z06. Definitely something different going on with the ZL1 lt4.

LS6-M22 · 03-23-2016, 08:33 PM

I have driven the new Z06 and it is an awesome machine. I can say that the supercharger was not as loud as what we all have heard in the ZL1 videos. I say the camaro team are sandbagging on that 640hp just like dodge did when the hellcat was announced at 600 plus hp. It wouldn't be the first time chevy put more horses in a car other then their halo corvette #see1970

cal45 · 03-23-2016, 08:36 PM

I would bet that the 2017 Z06 s/c LT4 will have much of the same changes that are on the '17 ZL1 - and also a slight HP boost.

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MY14SS · 03-23-2016, 08:37 PM

It is not the first time they use different lids. Remember on the last gen LSA motor has different SC lid for the CTS-V and the ZL1. I think the ZL1 lid was better for cooling. Perhaps they'll follow this for the new ZL1.

Eric SS · 03-23-2016, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal45

I would bet that the 2017 Z06 s/c LT4 will have much of the same changes that are on the '17 ZL1 - and also a slight HP boost.

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I believe the Vette lid is is as high as it can go because of hood clearance. I could be incorrect.

03-23-2016, 02:08 PM	#1
Eric SS #becauseracecar Drives: 2016 SS Sedan, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,959	Corvette vs. Camaro SC volume? (pics inside) Someone else noticed this as well. Seems like the SC has a much larger lid on the Camaro. That's never a bad thing. More efficient at higher RPM's and capable of more power maybe? Corvette: Camaro is attached. Thanks to user LS6-M22 for the screengrabs: Attached Images

03-23-2016, 06:53 PM	#7
hotlap Drives: 20 1LE 2SS M6 Rally Green Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Franklin WI Posts: 6,632	The Vette has the rotors recessed deep to keep the height low. It's possible that they are only optimizing for the Camaro by moving it higher for better cooling but that's a lot of effort and still a new SC. If your going to go through the effort bigger makes more sense for the car. The rotor placement is discussed in this excellent video. Building GM's most powerful Engine Ever, the 650hp LT4 V8! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bLtZNtvc1Aw __________________ "the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” Ronald Reagan -

03-23-2016, 08:12 PM	#9
ilirg Drives: 2011 Camaro 2ss Join Date: May 2013 Location: nj Posts: 1,559	My only question is where are the rest of the bolts holding down the lid on the ZL1 engine? There are 15 bolts around the edge of the Z06 lid, unless it's just the angle? Never mind I see them now, in this pic you can see how much higher it is over the bolts, and that it covers the entire blower equally. Attached Images

03-23-2016, 08:17 PM	#10
ilirg Drives: 2011 Camaro 2ss Join Date: May 2013 Location: nj Posts: 1,559	Here is the CTS V engine, looks like the Z06. Definitely something different going on with the ZL1 lt4. Attached Images

03-23-2016, 02:18 PM	#2
Nataphen Drives: None Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: DFW TX Posts: 304	I bet the SC is the same and the intercooler is just better on the Camaro.

03-23-2016, 02:23 PM	#3
LSLT_Powered26 Drives: 2013 Victory Red Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Alexandria,LA Posts: 95	Omg, one can only dream they decided to throw that tiny 1.7L in trash where it belongs!

03-23-2016, 03:45 PM	#5
Nataphen Drives: None Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: DFW TX Posts: 304	Well, fingers crossed for you guys. I'll be watching for the outcome. I'm sticking with the 1LE, but a ZL1 that's got a better blower than the halo car would be cool.

03-23-2016, 07:09 PM	#8
DrkPhx Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 / 2006 TB SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MN Posts: 2,250	Not only is it taller, but it's actually bigger. On the ZO6 you can see how the back part has a curve to allow for clearance by the cowl. The ZL1 doesn't have that. Nice.

03-23-2016, 08:33 PM	#11
LS6-M22 Rockcrusher Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Join Date: May 2009 Location: Spring Hill FL Posts: 425	I have driven the new Z06 and it is an awesome machine. I can say that the supercharger was not as loud as what we all have heard in the ZL1 videos. I say the camaro team are sandbagging on that 640hp just like dodge did when the hellcat was announced at 600 plus hp. It wouldn't be the first time chevy put more horses in a car other then their halo corvette #see1970

03-23-2016, 08:36 PM	#12
cal45 Drives: 2015 Blue Velvet Metallic ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Orlando & Flagler Beach,FL Posts: 1,453	I would bet that the 2017 Z06 s/c LT4 will have much of the same changes that are on the '17 ZL1 - and also a slight HP boost. .

03-23-2016, 08:37 PM	#13
MY14SS Drives: pbm Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: United States Posts: 25	It is not the first time they use different lids. Remember on the last gen LSA motor has different SC lid for the CTS-V and the ZL1. I think the ZL1 lid was better for cooling. Perhaps they'll follow this for the new ZL1.

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