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2SS2010 · 10-22-2013, 07:40 AM

Can some one tell me which is a better route, I live between Janetty Racing and Slowhawk Performance. basicly looking for a tune for LTH nothing crazy.

ST1LE · 10-22-2013, 07:50 AM

Actual dyno tune is better.

Camarojt · 10-22-2013, 07:57 AM

Both have advantages and disadvantages. A remote tune is a pretty easy no hassle way to get your car tuned especially if you are a good driving distance away from the nearest performance shop and you have limited time to do it. The handheld that you will buy can then be used as a scanner to clear codes.
It is possible that with a remote tune, you may leave a small amount of hp on the table. So then you would have to datalog your car on the street or at the track to have new updated files sent to you to upload.

A dyno tune to alot of people is a better way to get the most out of your tune. You can do it all in 1 session, plus you get to see exactly what your car is putting down to the rear wheels.
Just depends on what you want out of your tune.

2SS2010 · 10-22-2013, 07:59 AM

Good valid points guys, I'm hoping Janetty see's this thread and chimes in.

litle88 · 10-22-2013, 08:53 AM

If it's headers only, It's gonna be an easy tune.

Unreal · 10-22-2013, 09:24 AM

Depends on the tuners. I've seen mail order tunes that are way better than local dyno tunes and I've seen the opposite. Can't say one or the other is better. Same tuner a dyno tune will be better but a jackass on a dyno won't do as well as a quality mailorder.

GMTool · 10-22-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SS2010

Good valid points guys, I'm hoping Janetty see's this thread and chimes in.

Just email or pm him.

strych9 · 10-22-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ST1LE

Actual dyno tune is better.

That's definitely an opinion!

The reputable tuners that sponsor this site are quite adept at mail-order tunes, as they have dyno-tuned paractically every bolt-on scenario out there. Also, with datalogging, they can fine-tune the dial-in very accurately.

ST1LE · 10-22-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by strych9

That's definitely an opinion!

The reputable tuners that sponsor this site are quite adept at mail-order tunes, as they have dyno-tuned paractically every bolt-on scenario out there. Also, with datalogging, they can fine-tune the dial-in very accurately.

Agreed, but as the tuners themselves will tell you they would rather have the car on the dyno. That being said I wouldnt shy away from a email tune for headers only.

axis · 10-22-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by strych9

That's definitely an opinion!

The reputable tuners that sponsor this site are quite adept at mail-order tunes, as they have dyno-tuned paractically every bolt-on scenario out there. Also, with datalogging, they can fine-tune the dial-in very accurately.

Those same tuners will tell you that they can usually get within a couple HP of a good dyno tune. That means they can get even more when they have the car on their rollers. So what ST1LE said is true. Now, most here will tell you that it probably isn't worth the time, gas, effort for a headers/CAI only car, and I agree with that.

Msmall143 · 10-22-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarojt

Both have advantages and disadvantages. A remote tune is a pretty easy no hassle way to get your car tuned especially if you are a good driving distance away from the nearest performance shop and you have limited time to do it. The handheld that you will buy can then be used as a scanner to clear codes.
It is possible that with a remote tune, you may leave a small amount of hp on the table. So then you would have to datalog your car on the street or at the track to have new updated files sent to you to upload.

A dyno tune to alot of people is a better way to get the most out of your tune. You can do it all in 1 session, plus you get to see exactly what your car is putting down to the rear wheels.
Just depends on what you want out of your tune.

So the disadvantage of a dyno tune is.....

BlaqWhole · 10-22-2013, 05:16 PM

A dyno tune costs significantly more than a custom tune. And it is more time consuming. For headers and CAI and all the everyday bolt-on stuff, I'd stick with a custom email tune. Save the dyno tune for when you get into cams and heads and aftermarket or ported intake manifolds and superchargers...that stuff. Because most places will offer a free dyno tune with installation of those items. The extra 5 maybe 10 hp from a dyno tune is not worth the extra few hundred dollars, travel time, and dyno time as opposed to a custom tune. And like mentioned before, the real ggod shops can get you close enough to a dyno tune anyway.

Msmall143 · 10-22-2013, 05:16 PM

Over this

axis · 10-22-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Msmall143

So the disadvantage of a dyno tune is.....

Can be costly.
Have to go back to the rollers for any changes (more $$).
Gas, time, effort.

Those being said, if you have anything more than bolt-ons, you really need to dyno tune it regardless of the above.

10-22-2013, 07:40 AM	#1
2SS2010 Drives: 2010 2 SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 594	mail order tune vs Actual dyno tune Can some one tell me which is a better route, I live between Janetty Racing and Slowhawk Performance. basicly looking for a tune for LTH nothing crazy.

10-22-2013, 07:50 AM	#2
ST1LE Drives: E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 4,496	Actual dyno tune is better. __________________ SOLD - 2013 1LE - Pat G Spec'd Cam, NPP with 1 7/8" Long Tube Headers with High Flow Cats, Intake w/scoop, Ported Throttle Body, and Apex 1.25" Lowering Springs. J-Rod Built and Matt@FSP Tuned

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litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	If it's headers only, It's gonna be an easy tune. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

10-22-2013, 09:24 AM	#6
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Depends on the tuners. I've seen mail order tunes that are way better than local dyno tunes and I've seen the opposite. Can't say one or the other is better. Same tuner a dyno tune will be better but a jackass on a dyno won't do as well as a quality mailorder. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

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Msmall143 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NOVA Posts: 1,718	Over this Last edited by Msmall143; 10-22-2013 at 11:35 PM.

10-22-2013, 07:57 AM	#3
Camarojt Drives: 2011camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Allen, Tx Posts: 2,202	Both have advantages and disadvantages. A remote tune is a pretty easy no hassle way to get your car tuned especially if you are a good driving distance away from the nearest performance shop and you have limited time to do it. The handheld that you will buy can then be used as a scanner to clear codes. It is possible that with a remote tune, you may leave a small amount of hp on the table. So then you would have to datalog your car on the street or at the track to have new updated files sent to you to upload. A dyno tune to alot of people is a better way to get the most out of your tune. You can do it all in 1 session, plus you get to see exactly what your car is putting down to the rear wheels. Just depends on what you want out of your tune.

10-22-2013, 07:59 AM	#4
2SS2010 Drives: 2010 2 SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia Posts: 594	Good valid points guys, I'm hoping Janetty see's this thread and chimes in.

10-22-2013, 05:16 PM	#12
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	A dyno tune costs significantly more than a custom tune. And it is more time consuming. For headers and CAI and all the everyday bolt-on stuff, I'd stick with a custom email tune. Save the dyno tune for when you get into cams and heads and aftermarket or ported intake manifolds and superchargers...that stuff. Because most places will offer a free dyno tune with installation of those items. The extra 5 maybe 10 hp from a dyno tune is not worth the extra few hundred dollars, travel time, and dyno time as opposed to a custom tune. And like mentioned before, the real ggod shops can get you close enough to a dyno tune anyway.