[Lafourche1]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I can't think of any Camaro that made more power than the Corvette. We're lucky to get the same power rating as the Corvette.

I think the RAM Air 1996 model made more power than the Corvette. I think it was 315 (maybe 320) vs 300. The next year was the LS1 Corvette followed by the LS1 F-Body in 1998.

[ISHLISS]

Al O has said numerous times that the 6th gen Camaro no longer follows in the footsteps of the vette. So just because the vette didn't get a HP bump doesn't mean the Camaro wont.

The Camaro making more power isn't going to eat into vette sales.

[solarstingray]

only thing I can forsee is a bumper refreshing and a a10 that's about it,

[Blazin383]

I’m skeptical that there is any difference in the LT1 in the Camaro vs the Corvette as it is. I think the only difference is in the engine cover they snap on top and the advertised mumber. GM will always protect the specs for their flagship. There are plenty of dyno sheets to prove it.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Lafourche1

I think the RAM Air 1996 model made more power than the Corvette. I think it was 315 (maybe 320) vs 300. The next year was the LS1 Corvette followed by the LS1 F-Body in 1998.

The SS Camaro was rated at 305 hp. The manual Corvette was rated at 330 hp.

Originally Posted by ISHLISS

Al O has said numerous times that the 6th gen Camaro no longer follows in the footsteps of the vette. So just because the vette didn't get a HP bump doesn't mean the Camaro wont.

The Camaro making more power isn't going to eat into vette sales.

Al O doesn’t decide how much power the engines get. They can say the Camaro isn’t held down by the Corvette all they want. Until they actually demonstrate it, it’s all talk.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The SS Camaro was rated at 305 hp. The manual Corvette was rated at 330 hp.




Al O doesn’t decide how much power the engines get. They can say the Camaro isn’t held down by the Corvette all they want. Until they actually demonstrate it, it’s all talk.

Agreed and when they share the same engine, they are not going to boost power for one and not the other. and that is not "protecting the corvette" that is they use the same engine what happens to one effects the other. And history shows as far as engines go it goes Corvette first.

LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7

LT1, LT4

All of those engines have been shared between Corvette and Camaro. And all of them debuted first in the Corvette

[doc7000]

Originally Posted by Blazin383

I’m skeptical that there is any difference in the LT1 in the Camaro vs the Corvette as it is. I think the only difference is in the engine cover they snap on top and the advertised mumber. GM will always protect the specs for their flagship. There are plenty of dyno sheets to prove it.

Actually there is likely a difference in power due to a more restrictive exhaust system and/or intake system to put the engine into the Camaro compared to the Corvette. Remember the Corvette without the performance exhaust only makes 455/460 and with the performance exhaust makes 460/465.

[doc7000]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Agreed and when they share the same engine, they are not going to boost power for one and not the other. and that is not "protecting the corvette" that is they use the same engine what happens to one effects the other. And history shows as far as engines go it goes Corvette first.

LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7

LT1, LT4

All of those engines have been shared between Corvette and Camaro. And all of them debuted first in the Corvette

The Camaro never got the LS2 engine, by the time the Camaro came back around it was the LS3 engine.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Al O doesn’t decide how much power the engines get. They can say the Camaro isn’t held down by the Corvette all they want. Until they actually demonstrate it, it’s all talk.

How could the ZL1 1LE have been better if the Corvette wasn't holding it back?

Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times
10.Nissan GT-R Nismo (R35)Michael Krumm7:08.68
11.Mercedes-Benz AMG GT RChristian Gebhardt7:10.92
12.Gumpert Apollo SportFlorian Gruber7:11.57
13.Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACRDominik Farnbacher7:12.13
14.Porsche 911 GT3 unknown7:12.70
15.Porsche 918 SpyderHorst von Saurma7:13.00
16.Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7)Christian Gebhardt7:13.90
17.McLaren 720Sunknown7:14.00
18.Lexus LFA Nurburgring PackageAkira Iida7:14.64
19.Donkervoort D8 RSMichael Duechting7:14.89
20.Camaro ZL1 1LE Packageunknown7:16.04

Seems clear that Camaro is free to be the best it can be within the confines of the engine and platform parts bin. Camaro is part of the GM family and the hardware it shares with Cadillac and Corvette have made it the best of the its class.

I know, I know... You want to see 708 HP even though the ZL1 is actually a better performance car than the Hellcat.

[Bhobbs]

How could it be better?

2.3 liter blower, for one.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by doc7000

The Camaro never got the LS2 engine, by the time the Camaro came back around it was the LS3 engine.

True, but all the other GM performance vehicles that got the LS2, got it after the Corvette got it.

Originally Posted by hotlap

How could the ZL1 1LE have been better if the Corvette wasn't holding it back?

Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times
10.Nissan GT-R Nismo (R35)Michael Krumm7:08.68
11.Mercedes-Benz AMG GT RChristian Gebhardt7:10.92
12.Gumpert Apollo SportFlorian Gruber7:11.57
13.Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACRDominik Farnbacher7:12.13
14.Porsche 911 GT3 unknown7:12.70
15.Porsche 918 SpyderHorst von Saurma7:13.00
16.Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C7)Christian Gebhardt7:13.90
17.McLaren 720Sunknown7:14.00
18.Lexus LFA Nurburgring PackageAkira Iida7:14.64
19.Donkervoort D8 RSMichael Duechting7:14.89
20.Camaro ZL1 1LE Packageunknown7:16.04

Seems clear that Camaro is free to be the best it can be within the confines of the engine and platform parts bin. Camaro is part of the GM family and the hardware it shares with Cadillac and Corvette have made it the best of the its class.

I know, I know... You want to see 708 HP even though the ZL1 is actually a better performance car than the Hellcat.

That is just it, it's whatever works for Corvette will work for everything Corvette shares with. Now if you ask me that is a damn good place to pull parts from, but it still stands that engines will trickle down from Corvette

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

How could it be better?

2.3 liter blower, for one.

[avalonandl]

Chevy 11th Commandment- Thou shall not have more HP than the Corvette.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

How could it be better?

2.3 liter blower, for one.

That would be great however the ZL1 was testing summer of 2015.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by shaffe

That is just it, it's whatever works for Corvette will work for everything Corvette shares with. Now if you ask me that is a damn good place to pull parts from, but it still stands that engines will trickle down from Corvette

I agree but somehow, some people think we’d have a better Camaro if it wasn’t “held back” by Corvette and Cadillac. The results show the Camaro team built an excellent car at all levels. They are not being “held back”.