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Guys really? Strap a Pratt-Whitney jet engine to the back, man I hate all this mod talk sometimes. If you want the ultimate, then just buy the ultimate.
This is the Camaro forum. If the 6th gen can drop say 500-600 pounds and get to a 7/8th size of what it is now, I would consider it. Do twin turbos, make it silly and I will keep my incoming 2014 until it blows up.
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And of course 500-600 pounds and 7/8th size are never happening. But how 'bout a 10% haircut? 375 lbs and 9/10th size? Achievable? Frankly, I'd love a Camaro like that... even with a NA V6.
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Everyone that hopes your number is true (and I hope it is too) start with the assumption that the Camaro will weigh even less than an ATS. For starters unless you want 18 inch wheels as your largest choice you will be adding weight to handle the chassis loads. 18s are as big as you can get on an ATS. Quote:
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If you can get 20% gains from a tune only, then the engine is not topped out from the factory. How you feel about what people will do with the engine doesn't change that fact. Still having fun? Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk
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04-27-2014, 01:33 PM | #48 |
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im thinking why not introduce additional engine options after the gen 6 initial year? this could get really interesting ...
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04-27-2014, 03:20 PM | #49 | |
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The 2010 Camaro SS weighed what...3,850 lbs? The 2010 Camaro V6 weighed 3,720 if I remember correctly. That's 130 lbs. Just for fun lets say 150lb difference. ATS V6 weighs 3,460 lbs. (according to this article.) Add 150 lbs to that and you get 3,610 lbs. So I do think it is possible. In reality, what I hope to see is something around 3,600 lbs. 3,650 or less. If its closer to 3,700 I'll be disappointed. If the V6 (or turbo 4) is over 3,500 again I'll be disappointed. I don't see any reason why they would have to use exotic materials to hit this mark, unless the Cadillac is already using such materials to hit that weight. (The base on that car is 3,315 by the way) He was just responding to a statement, a statement that we feel is incorrect.
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04-27-2014, 03:54 PM | #50 |
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something else to think about, with all these engine options, is price point. a new LS is what, 22-24k? would the turbo 4 be that price, and everything bumps up, or will it be around 19k?
and if you have a v6TT, with almost the same hp as an SS, then I would think the price could be almost the same. heck, maybe more, because of having more parts that could break. edit: and the comment about only enthusiasts that go on a website would modify their car is a little short sighted. If a prospective buyer, who's never been on a Camaro site, buys a v6TT, there's a good chance they know what they bought, and why they bought it.
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Im all for the v6 TT but they have to keep the v8 in the camaro
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I like the feel of my SS and I am an old big block kinda guy !
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It is "topped out" for the difficult combination of durability, emissions and fuel economy. Yes OEMs continue to tweak and improve over time. But the LS3 hasn't changed since launch. For me, I compare what the OEM is able to deliver. I know others look at what they can do with it. I had an engineer that worked for me years ago that bought one of the very first C6 Z06s. Drove it home and put a cam in it. And I literally mean he drove it home and put a cam in it. A GM engineer knowingly gave up his warranty on the first day. In the end though the magazines won't compare two cars tweaked by customers they will compare two cars delivered from the factory. That is the battle I want GM to win with the Mustang. Quote:
As we've discussed I hope you are right and I'm wrong.
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I can't see more than 1 different engine change for initial gen 6 offering..going 4 and 6 twin turbo at same time IMO is too much change .if the plan is both then stretch out yr offerings, brings more attention and can be used as a counter to a Ford change..with the Camaro on a universal body, I think we can have some real options...
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