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Old 01-18-2014, 02:33 PM   #141
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Front shot looks good!
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:18 AM   #142
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1. If you switch the headlights with the turn signal position and give it a little turn around
the corner ( couple inches ) while keeping the same shape , you may don't need the
side markers
2. Can you move the lower lights a little further to the corner , by extending the lower grille
to just short of the radius portion ( 2 ") and keeping the ends square , just like the one
above
3. You mention earlier the the trunk can't be made wider because of the wheel well , but
on the existing model , we open the trunk lid and there is some room beyond the lid to
outside , but that's not a big deal

4. On the hood , and by the same reason , it looks to me that it needs to be wider , closer
to the fenders edge , or it will cover the suspension tower , air cleaner etc

5 The exhaust as per your question , you are going to the fighter look
So it may be hidden just under the rear diffuser , cut just with the same angle off the
diffuser , and keep it in black or even with some kind of screen , and the shape of it
to mimic the geometrical vision of its surroundings
Just trying to make it not to standout from where it's in
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:44 PM   #143
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Front shot looks good!
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1. If you switch the headlights with the turn signal position and give it a little turn around
the corner ( couple inches ) while keeping the same shape , you may don't need the
side markers
2. Can you move the lower lights a little further to the corner , by extending the lower grille
to just short of the radius portion ( 2 ") and keeping the ends square , just like the one
above
3. You mention earlier the the trunk can't be made wider because of the wheel well , but
on the existing model , we open the trunk lid and there is some room beyond the lid to
outside , but that's not a big deal

4. On the hood , and by the same reason , it looks to me that it needs to be wider , closer
to the fenders edge , or it will cover the suspension tower , air cleaner etc

5 The exhaust as per your question , you are going to the fighter look
So it may be hidden just under the rear diffuser , cut just with the same angle off the
diffuser , and keep it in black or even with some kind of screen , and the shape of it
to mimic the geometrical vision of its surroundings
Just trying to make it not to standout from where it's in
I've removed the wrap-around on the tail lights so it will be consistent with the front styling. I know what you're asking but it's awkward looking on this particular body style for some reason.

Fog lights are square-ish now and moved out towards the sides. Is this what you had in mind? Might be too far out.

I didn't say the trunk 'couldn't' be made wider, just that it may not make much difference but I widened it here on this model since it was easy to do.

Hood... I'll have to look into that. The edge placement is actually part of the fender design.

I can make some adjustments on the tail pipes. They have to stick out a certain distance otherwise they'll melt the diffuser. I can play with it though and see what I can come up with.


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Old 01-19-2014, 01:08 PM   #144
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Old 01-19-2014, 03:41 PM   #145
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Got anything positive? Like what you would like to see?
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:01 PM   #146
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Exercise in futility! Reboot!! Since you asked. Like most say, history repeats itself and I think I've seen that shape many a time... and it's kinda old hat.... Rounded edges needed vs flat panels. etc ... good luck! Oh, it is starting to look like an oversized FXXXXXXO... Oh No... well, I think you recognized your own vision was taking that old pontiac look.... It lacks cohesive vision mainly.
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this is the ugliest thing i have ever seen
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:49 AM   #148
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Exercise in futility! Reboot!! Since you asked. Like most say, history repeats itself and I think I've seen that shape many a time... and it's kinda old hat.... Rounded edges needed vs flat panels. etc ... good luck! Oh, it is starting to look like an oversized FXXXXXXO... Oh No... well, I think you recognized your own vision was taking that old pontiac look.... It lacks cohesive vision mainly.
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this is the ugliest thing i have ever seen
HAHA you guys are hilarious I specifically said this CONCEPT is inspired by the 1967 Camaro so yes you would expect to have already seen some of the shapes and styling. People say they want retro-inspired but then complain that a retro-inspired design looks like the past.....what else would a retro-inspired design look like? The "vision" on this one is not only cohesive, it's pretty clear.

Ugliest thing you've ever seen? That's so "not" true it's ridiculous you even said it so why even bother posting such nonsense.

What's "lacking" in most of these comments and posts are reading and comprehension skills. I've already stated this is inspired by the 67 Camaro so people shouldn't be surprised to see things they've seen before. I've already stated I don't care if it looks like something from the past. I've already stated I don't care if someone doesn't like it. I've already stated if you don't like it and think it looks like something from the past don't post that because that kind of post is useless. I've specifically and repeatedly asked if you want to comment, put something positive and constructive; if you don't like the design then what WOULD you like? Try and be as specific as possible. Read some of the comments by the people who DO read and comprehend; their posts are useful and help improve things and I thank them GREATLY for being positive and having the right spirit of the adventure.

For the rest of you who just complain and/or criticize....post up YOUR concept drawings and ideas. Let's see what YOU think is better if you don't like what others are doing. Show us what you've got.
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:58 AM   #149
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this is the ugliest thing i have ever seen
I guess we are in the age where it's okay to just shout out how you really feel and there is a post counter that will even give you credit for it. This is the reason many people can draw, sing, write..... but don't show it in public, kudos to you for having the nads to take the heat.
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Doc , can you give it a chance , and try to increase the size of the head lights like 50% wider , with a line dividing it in two sections
And maybe putting the turn signal at the far outside corner of the grill
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Doc , can you give it a chance , and try to increase the size of the head lights like 50% wider , with a line dividing it in two sections
And maybe putting the turn signal at the far outside corner of the grill
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Here ya go. I was also experimenting with some lighting effects which gives it an interesting look.

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....interesting Doc, I saw some Corvair inspired lines to it!
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Here ya go. I was also experimenting with some lighting effects which gives it an interesting look.

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I like the front , but the big space in between the headlights and the lower fog lights is asking for something in there
And I'm not sure what to put in there , maybe a intake vent for the front brakes ?!

And on the back , regarding the exhaust pipes could be within the rear diffuser , flash with it , having a 1" clearance and some kind a metal trim around it but not round tips , something that go hand on hand with the shape of the area surrounding it
And all in black and kind of looking downwards a little , this can be archived by following the angle of the diffuser
On the door handle , I think that it should be just in the door itself
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....interesting Doc, I saw some Corvair inspired lines to it!
Funny you should mention Corvair. Realizing that the gas mileage requirements coming in the future of over 50 mpg was going to make it nearly impossible to keep big V8's, I was working on the idea of a super slippery shape with a low drag coefficient as a way to help improve gas mileage. A car could still have a small-block V8 or V6 and reach the mpg requirements if it had a low drag coefficient.

Originally I was trying this shape as a Camaro but I realized the Camaro crowd would simply not accept a shape like this, so I was thinking it might work as a revived Corvair and it could even have either a rear or mid-engine design. Something new for Chevy... a light-weight, super-handling, perfect weight-balance car that's a blast to drive and gets great gas mileage. Beautiful styling but not a lot of expensive technology so the price could be kept low. It's an idea anyways.

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