04-28-2015, 02:48 AM | #99 |
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This is Incorrect. With our Controller installed, the car still recognizes any Voltage mismatch between the 2 sides which are the Gas pedal sensor and the Throttle Body sensor.
In other words: The car consistently checks for any mismatch making sure your car's response / acceleration is exactly what you're asking it to do / how far you've pushed the Gas pedal. |
04-28-2015, 03:17 AM | #100 |
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I also think sp5 is great for daily driving on the V8. I use to have it on sp6, 7,or 8 and I kept getting cels and reduced power every week and almost every day when I was driving with the paddles(this was before I returned I and got a new one). Now with the new one I had it on sp6 and got a cel once and the code was p1516 so I cleared it and lowered it to sp5 and it hasn't come back on...yet.
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04-28-2015, 07:15 AM | #101 | |
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I understand that the PCM will recognize inconsistent voltages, which suggests that any additional controller would have to provide similarly consistent outputs all the way through the range, else the PCM would of course go to reduced power. Norm
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05-23-2015, 09:58 PM | #102 |
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I live in AZ. Open and conceal carry without special permits. That being said, get your head out of your crazy right wing sphincter. People like you who hate other Americans simply because you disagree with their political position are perfect fodder for both right and left wing propagandists who divide and conquer the sheeple while destroying our nation. Thanks for helping the billionaire class and well connected to systematically destroy our standard of living. Hopefully a mod will delete this and your asinine replies.
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05-23-2015, 10:08 PM | #103 |
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I'm going to try this. Lag is definitely noticeable stock. I had a few muscle cars in th 70s. I remember the lag when you waited for the secondaries to open, then. .. Va-room... heaven.
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05-24-2015, 08:24 AM | #104 | |||
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You've probably read about the Toyotas and their throttle difficulties, but perhaps not about Ford's pedal sensors and mechanical mods that some have made to them to eliminate a dead band around 0%. Quote:
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How 'bout we look at throttle tinkering from a different perspective . . . while trying to maintain the same position with respect to tinkering with throttle behavior (either you do or you don't, without regard to why or which direction). Would you be so adamant if the OE throttle behavior on these cars was too aggressive, and somebody had come up with an add-on device to slow it down? I'm being completely serious here. Just so you know, the 2011 - 2014 5.0 Mustangs actually do come with throttle response that is too aggressive for autocross. Comes in too quickly to be "smooth" as you exit a turn, and more than one national-level driver has resorted to running a gear too high just to keep this problem at bay. You can't convince me that that's a good thing, or that it shouldn't be modified, as there still are street driving implications. Hell, I've even had to solve the same kind of problem in a purely mechanical throttle system, where opening a large throttle body with the original linkage was still too fast for fine throttle control. Maybe this doesn't matter if you're only interested in straight line acceleration, but that doesn't mean that it can't be a significant problem. Norm
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05-25-2015, 07:43 AM | #105 | |
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But, back on topic.. I love my VTC, I can set it to be as aggressive as I want..
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05-25-2015, 07:46 AM | #106 | |
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09-16-2015, 04:26 AM | #107 | |
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Like all mods, the liability falls to the installer. In my view, this is no different than installing a ported throttle body to forced induction: You are changing the performance characteristics of your vehicle away from stock. It is ultimately up to the driver to control his vehicle in a safe manner. Personally, this mod is a lot of fun and took away that minor disappointment with the stock throttle lag. To each his own. |
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09-16-2015, 07:06 AM | #108 | |
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I'll take the risk for now. J |
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09-17-2015, 12:34 PM | #109 | |
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All GM Cars with "Drive by Wire" system have a safety option that will send the car into "Reduced Engine Power" whenever it detects something wrong or if anything fails within the system. There is a constant check of voltage between the accelerator and the Throttle body sensors. On top of that, our Controller has an additional fail-safe mode that will default back to SP0 ( Stock mode ). |
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