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SlowTurtle · 12-28-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

I don't understand why they're focusing on the super small niche market of the turbo build with no room for intercooler crowd when they could have the large market NA crowd set up already.

Because it didn't make power

Camarojt · 12-29-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 14pilot

Your point seems valid, until you consider that this is NRE. They are not a major or even a minor performance parts manufacturer. Not likely that NRE will ever manufacturer 1,000 of these intakes and put them out into the mainstream aftermarket parts distribution channel. I think they are doing the TT IC setup just because that is what they are into primarily. More likely they do small production runs of like 25 units and hoard them in-house for their big pockets customer builds. These IMs may never be available to anyone other than a NRE customer doing an uber build?

Yes, NRE is da bomb. They aren't f*ing around. And while everyone here is so excited about the N.A. peak HP numbers, I think that they are a yawn compared to the huge azz TQ gains.

This is why I hate reading this thread! What's the point? If nothing is going to be produced that an average Camaro owner can buy. These threads give high hopes of a great new intake that will outperform the Fast Intake.
Everyone supposedly has 1 right around the corner! Hogwash!
I wished they would either build 1 that does what it says and that will be able to be bought by the masses, or don't tease us with the hopes of one.

Cali_Camaro_SS · 12-29-2013, 02:38 AM

Hey guys I know waiting for stuff to come out is hard, but just be patient.
No reason to get mad at the thread

They just want to make it as perfect as they can get it to be and it takes countless of hours to test and develop these things.

Once it done and ready I think they will be ordering a bunch of them to sell to all.

So grab some

and just chill hahahaha. As soon as I get this thing and test the shit out of it I will let you guys know how it is, and trust me I cant wait either but just have to be patient

Unless you are looking to buy a IM soon everyone else should have no problem waiting

axis · 12-29-2013, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LeanPocket

Idk why everyone is trying to call bs on this intake.. The dyno graph clearly states 500 peak hp. With stock exhaust manifolds, cats and resonators that's freaking amazing.

For those who question NRE, research that car they unveiled at SEMA.. The car makes 2000hp with their custom 'alien' intake and 'mirror' turbos. Makes UGR look like a bitch compared to what they custom fabricate.

They have a similar setup (632 bbc pushing out 1600 hp on pump gas) that dishes out so much torque, so quick it broke their engine dyno.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N5y5m8wB0mY

There's a BIG difference between making a intake that will flow 2k HP on a dyno and run down the 1/4 mile track vs one that will work for the guy road tracking his car or using it as a daily driver. It's very cool but unless they solve the heat issues, it's a bust for the ones I mentioned. If they don't care about that crowd, then so be it. It's their business and they can do as they please. It does make you wonder why they started with the one that EVERYONE wanted, only to shelve it and go with this frankenstien version.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 12-29-2013, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

What good comes from putting a IC core in the intake manifold?

Lpe did it and we tested it......

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=283673&page=7

the Ford Gt that broke the texas mile record uses an intercooler intake and now GM is using an intercooler intake in the NEW CTSV SPORT TT.

and 1 more(OLDEST) IS Cummins 855 CID diesel used an intercooler intake that they call an "AFTERCOOLER"

http://wancum.en.alibaba.com/product...s_3626715.html

LSXaddict · 12-29-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Lpe did it and we tested it......

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=283673&page=7

the Ford Gt that broke the texas mile record uses an intercooler intake and now GM is using an intercooler intake in the NEW CTSV SPORT TT.

and 1 more(OLDEST) IS Cummins 855 CID diesel used an intercooler intake that they call an "AFTERCOOLER"

http://wancum.en.alibaba.com/product...s_3626715.html

As far as everyone else speculating about the N/A guys getting left out to dry and this only being for the rich customers of NRE I would say just chill out and hang in there. Why would they contact the G5.R build if they didn't have plans for an N/A version that had respectable gains?

Synner · 12-29-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LSXaddict

As far as everyone else speculating about the N/A guys getting left out to dry and this only being for the rich customers of NRE I would say just chill out and hang in there. Why would they contact the G5.R build if they didn't have plans for an N/A version that had respectable gains?

This is not the company that was supplying an intake to Nathan's build. Thats Vararam.

LSXaddict · 12-29-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

This is not the company that was supplying an intake to Nathan's build. Thats Vararam.

Well then... this is awkward. Are they co devolping it or?

Synner · 12-29-2013, 01:43 PM

Completely different units, R&D, and companies. Visually there will be some similarities because there's only so many ways to skin a cat.

Cali_Camaro_SS · 12-29-2013, 01:48 PM

They are still making it for the NA guys, they are working on the IC version because they have a customers car which is going turbo and will be using that intake. So yes they will still be doing the NA version aswell.

Heat soak shouldnt be a problem on that intake, They said while the engine is on it stays cool to the touch, and stays cool with each pull. only when they turn the car off is when it soaks up some heat. Dont quote me exactly on that but thats what I think I remember

LSXaddict · 12-29-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

Completely different units, R&D, and companies. Visually there will be some similarities because there's only so many ways to skin a cat.

Well hopefully while they're making this they can figure out an OTR intake for my 13. I know New Era has one but Vararam has been around along time for Vettes and I trust the name a bit more (nothing against New Era I just am not as familar with them).

LeanPocket · 01-07-2014, 03:33 AM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPmRZuM0JQM

Xram explained in great detail by Nelson himself, comparing stock numbers vs Xram cfm numbers in real time.. With much much more.

LeanPocket · 01-07-2014, 03:34 AM

Even hints at the inferiority of fast manifolds.

BlaqWhole · 01-07-2014, 04:03 AM

I'm sorry but 30 minutes of blah blah blah blah vs FAST intake which has shown their gains on a bone stock LS3 engine...I'll go with the FAST intake. Because all the talking and explaining in the world means nothing if this intake manifold costs $1500 and makes no gains. Like my father once said, an empty wagon makes a lot of noise. If they can sit here making videos with all these grand explanations and flow tests and X cfm and so on, then they can strap it to a stock LS3 and show us some real proof of what it does in an A to B comparison. Since they haven't yet, I'm assuming its just a bunch of talk.

12-29-2013, 02:38 AM	#143
Cali_Camaro_SS Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS (BLACK) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 863	Hey guys I know waiting for stuff to come out is hard, but just be patient. No reason to get mad at the thread They just want to make it as perfect as they can get it to be and it takes countless of hours to test and develop these things. Once it done and ready I think they will be ordering a bunch of them to sell to all. So grab some and just chill hahahaha. As soon as I get this thing and test the shit out of it I will let you guys know how it is, and trust me I cant wait either but just have to be patient Unless you are looking to buy a IM soon everyone else should have no problem waiting __________________ _________________ 1SS: Dnyatech LT Headers \| Dynamaxx CatBack \| Diablo Tune \| Intake \| Pfatds Springs \| Heritage Grill \| Blacked out Bezels \| Black Chevy Sign \| Blacked out Wheels \| Tint \| HIDs w/Error code Eliminator \| Green Dome/Trunk Light \|

12-29-2013, 01:48 PM	#150
Cali_Camaro_SS Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS (BLACK) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 863	They are still making it for the NA guys, they are working on the IC version because they have a customers car which is going turbo and will be using that intake. So yes they will still be doing the NA version aswell. Heat soak shouldnt be a problem on that intake, They said while the engine is on it stays cool to the touch, and stays cool with each pull. only when they turn the car off is when it soaks up some heat. Dont quote me exactly on that but thats what I think I remember __________________ _________________ 1SS: Dnyatech LT Headers \| Dynamaxx CatBack \| Diablo Tune \| Intake \| Pfatds Springs \| Heritage Grill \| Blacked out Bezels \| Black Chevy Sign \| Blacked out Wheels \| Tint \| HIDs w/Error code Eliminator \| Green Dome/Trunk Light \|

01-07-2014, 03:33 AM	#152
LeanPocket Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 634	http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPmRZuM0JQM Xram explained in great detail by Nelson himself, comparing stock numbers vs Xram cfm numbers in real time.. With much much more. __________________ Build Thread

01-07-2014, 03:34 AM	#153
LeanPocket Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 634	Even hints at the inferiority of fast manifolds. __________________ Build Thread

12-29-2013, 01:43 PM	#149
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	Completely different units, R&D, and companies. Visually there will be some similarities because there's only so many ways to skin a cat.

01-07-2014, 04:03 AM	#154
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	I'm sorry but 30 minutes of blah blah blah blah vs FAST intake which has shown their gains on a bone stock LS3 engine...I'll go with the FAST intake. Because all the talking and explaining in the world means nothing if this intake manifold costs $1500 and makes no gains. Like my father once said, an empty wagon makes a lot of noise. If they can sit here making videos with all these grand explanations and flow tests and X cfm and so on, then they can strap it to a stock LS3 and show us some real proof of what it does in an A to B comparison. Since they haven't yet, I'm assuming its just a bunch of talk.