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Jims Mongoose · 02-17-2014, 03:10 PM

Hi guys, need some help.

My car a 2013 1LE currently has only the AirRaid cold air system, seems to have helped on Mustang Dyno showed 20Rwhp gain. I Could feel it.

I can only afford another simple mode. Going with headers.

Are there long tube headers by a good company that will cost me about $850 installed. Could I also get the high flow cats included.

It seems that the Kooks cost about 1100 to 1200 for that set up and they are not installed.

Thanks
Jim

Camaronutt · 02-17-2014, 03:16 PM

Look for used.

Ajdin@A2BMotorsport · 02-17-2014, 03:32 PM

Stainless Power or TSP, but with either your looking at around 1000-1200 installed. I would also recommend a custom tune.

Firefighter · 02-17-2014, 04:11 PM

If you want to go less expensive go with ether Stainless Power or TSP they have the best reps for what they are. as for the install you would be flat out pissed if you paid someone to do it.

These cars are too easy to throw headers on. I dreaded it because I thought it was going to be a hassle it was ridiculously easy. At most a 6 pack between two guys.

Also for comparison sake I put down 432HP/422TQ on a DynoJet bone stock she put down 368HP/365TQ on a similar DynoJet. so about 60+HP/50+TQ with the following mods. ADM Race Intake (scoop), Pfadt LT's (w/cats), Vmax ported TB and I swapped out the factory H-Pipe for a Magnaflow resonated X-Pipe to quiet things down a little. Our cars are very similar

OzzySS · 02-17-2014, 04:12 PM

I think TSP headers are the cheapest i've seen, and plenty of people say they're quality.
if it's an option, i'd recommend saving some money by doing the install yourself. should take less than 4 hours and then you've saved some money to put towards the tune you'll need to clear the CEL.

The Stig · 02-17-2014, 04:19 PM

You'll get more responses posting this in the V8 subforum.

That or this thread could get moved

Fraxum · 02-17-2014, 04:38 PM

Several less expensive options. It will be tough getting any LTs with cats installed for that price. And don't forget the tune if you want to get the most out of your setup.

But if you DIY and skip the tune you can come close to your price. The LT install is dead easy even on ramps. But will need a code editor to periodically check the CELs you will get and turn them off: $50. Go into your local area Camaro5 thread and see if someone might help you. Usually for a 12 pack of good beer you can save money and learn a lot. Some helpers are less picky and anything cold will do.

DRs will do as much as LTs for your cars ETs but you will need at least $1k for that.

Deke736 · 02-17-2014, 04:43 PM

Stainless Power headers with HF cats are going to run you $899 without installation. As was mentioned above, installation is not too bad and should only take a few hours in your garage on jack stands. My buddy did it in 2 with his wife helping as an extra set of hands. If you are moderately mechanically inclined, this would be your cheapest option.

Firefighter · 02-17-2014, 04:46 PM

I will say this my tuner did comment on how lean the car was before the tune. I honestly wouldn't want to run the car very long without one. At the very least a mail order tune is needed.

Shift_Rejected · 02-17-2014, 08:10 PM

I was quoted $700 just for an install.. Better off doing them yourself IMO.

litle88 · 02-17-2014, 09:16 PM

TSP IMHO. skip the cats.

OzzySS · 02-18-2014, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefighter

I will say this my tuner did comment on how lean the car was before the tune. I honestly wouldn't want to run the car very long without one. At the very least a mail order tune is needed.

Yours was running lean? Strange...mine has been running really rich before me and a friend tuned tonight

axis · 02-18-2014, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88

TSP IMHO. skip the cats.

+1

Dynamite · 02-18-2014, 06:30 AM

Get TSP headers 528.xx shipped with no cats. $300 or so to get installed. 3 hours of work at a labor rate of $100/hr is fair. With the proper hand tools you can install yourself and save even more money.

Don't believe that the higher the cost of the header, the more power you will get. They are all virtually the same with the differences mainly in the type of metal and welding work.

02-17-2014, 03:10 PM	#1
Jims Mongoose Jim Drives: 2013 Black 2SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 645 View My Garage	Header Cost Help Hi guys, need some help. My car a 2013 1LE currently has only the AirRaid cold air system, seems to have helped on Mustang Dyno showed 20Rwhp gain. I Could feel it. I can only afford another simple mode. Going with headers. Are there long tube headers by a good company that will cost me about $850 installed. Could I also get the high flow cats included. It seems that the Kooks cost about 1100 to 1200 for that set up and they are not installed. Thanks Jim

02-17-2014, 04:11 PM	#4
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	If you want to go less expensive go with ether Stainless Power or TSP they have the best reps for what they are. as for the install you would be flat out pissed if you paid someone to do it. These cars are too easy to throw headers on. I dreaded it because I thought it was going to be a hassle it was ridiculously easy. At most a 6 pack between two guys. Also for comparison sake I put down 432HP/422TQ on a DynoJet bone stock she put down 368HP/365TQ on a similar DynoJet. so about 60+HP/50+TQ with the following mods. ADM Race Intake (scoop), Pfadt LT's (w/cats), Vmax ported TB and I swapped out the factory H-Pipe for a Magnaflow resonated X-Pipe to quiet things down a little. Our cars are very similar __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

02-17-2014, 04:12 PM	#5
OzzySS Drives: 2013 2SS/1LE, 2004 Cavalier Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: jax, FL Posts: 1,344 View My Garage	I think TSP headers are the cheapest i've seen, and plenty of people say they're quality. if it's an option, i'd recommend saving some money by doing the install yourself. should take less than 4 hours and then you've saved some money to put towards the tune you'll need to clear the CEL. __________________ Build thread linked in the pic...

02-17-2014, 04:19 PM	#6
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	You'll get more responses posting this in the V8 subforum. That or this thread could get moved __________________

02-17-2014, 04:38 PM	#7
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	Several less expensive options. It will be tough getting any LTs with cats installed for that price. And don't forget the tune if you want to get the most out of your setup. But if you DIY and skip the tune you can come close to your price. The LT install is dead easy even on ramps. But will need a code editor to periodically check the CELs you will get and turn them off: $50. Go into your local area Camaro5 thread and see if someone might help you. Usually for a 12 pack of good beer you can save money and learn a lot. Some helpers are less picky and anything cold will do. DRs will do as much as LTs for your cars ETs but you will need at least $1k for that. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

02-17-2014, 03:16 PM	#2
Camaronutt Drives: 68 Camaro--2009 Corvette Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Austintown Ohio Posts: 37	Look for used.

02-17-2014, 03:32 PM	#3
Ajdin@A2BMotorsport Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Camaro 1SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Waterloo Posts: 609	Stainless Power or TSP, but with either your looking at around 1000-1200 installed. I would also recommend a custom tune.

02-17-2014, 04:43 PM	#8
Deke736 COTW 12/3/12 Drives: 2012 Ashen Gray ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Glen Carbon, IL Posts: 3,279	Stainless Power headers with HF cats are going to run you $899 without installation. As was mentioned above, installation is not too bad and should only take a few hours in your garage on jack stands. My buddy did it in 2 with his wife helping as an extra set of hands. If you are moderately mechanically inclined, this would be your cheapest option. __________________

02-17-2014, 04:46 PM	#9
Firefighter Drives: Black '13 2SS/RS/1LE w/NPP/NAV Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Tampa by way of Miami... Posts: 4,934	I will say this my tuner did comment on how lean the car was before the tune. I honestly wouldn't want to run the car very long without one. At the very least a mail order tune is needed. __________________ My Build Thread... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285054

02-17-2014, 08:10 PM	#10
Shift_Rejected 2010 2SS RS Drives: 2010 2SS RS (L99) Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wilmington, DelaWHERE Posts: 749	I was quoted $700 just for an install.. Better off doing them yourself IMO. __________________ ~ Build Thread \| 371HP & 390 TQ Performance Mods: K&N Cold Air Intake \| Pypes Cat-Back Exhaust \| Aluminum Paddle Shifters \| VaraRam Wedge \| Cross Drilled/Slotted Rotors \| Hawk HPC Pads \| M.M. Ported Throttle Body \| Kooks 1 7/8 Headers w/ High Flow Cats \| Dyno Tune @ RPM Cosmetic Mods: Rally Stripes (style1, style2, style2.2) \| Splitter \| Painted Calipers \| Door Projector Lights \| Front-Emblem Delete \| Cup Holder Lighting \| Quarter Window Covers \| Phantom Grille \| Ghosted Side Markers \| Tinted Fog Lights \| ZL1 Rockers \| Tail Light Bezels

02-17-2014, 09:16 PM	#11
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	TSP IMHO. skip the cats. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

02-18-2014, 06:30 AM	#14
Dynamite Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS XD Join Date: May 2012 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 522	Get TSP headers 528.xx shipped with no cats. $300 or so to get installed. 3 hours of work at a labor rate of $100/hr is fair. With the proper hand tools you can install yourself and save even more money. Don't believe that the higher the cost of the header, the more power you will get. They are all virtually the same with the differences mainly in the type of metal and welding work.