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Old 10-16-2017, 06:29 AM   #85
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I think it comes down to the reason(s?) why GM would actually offer a 6th Gen Z/28.

1 - to be the quickest track car? Nope. This won't work because to beat the ZL1 1LE would require an even more expensive Camaro so I am 100% sure this would not justify a new Z/28. IMO, definitely won't be the reason and will not happen.

2 - to be a niche/halo car. Nope again. Not sure if this would even justify a new Z/28 to the bean counters. High priced niche/halo cars tend to sit on lots and draw dust especially when greedy dealers slam on high ADMs. Again, I seriously doubt this would tip the Z/28 build into the 'Likely' category.

3 - to meet market demand and make money. IMO, this would be the ONLY reason GM would probably build and offer a 6th Gen Z/28. It would not be a direct competitor to the ZL1 1LE and would more likely be a head to head competitor of the GT 350 (non R version).

As Ford offers a GT350 and the GT350R, in that mindset, a Z/28 would be a marketable product.

I don't see it happening but if I were the one pitching the idea to the board at GM, this is the angle I would use to present the idea. A $50-$55K Z/28 would sell and probably sell pretty darn good. Make it a bit quicker than the 1LE but not as hairy chested as the ZL1 1LE, garnish it with some Z/28 specific trim/aero, a different engine, and there you have it.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:49 AM   #86
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I think it comes down to the reason(s?) why GM would actually offer a 6th Gen Z/28.

1 - to be the quickest track car? Nope. This won't work because to beat the ZL1 1LE would require an even more expensive Camaro so I am 100% sure this would not justify a new Z/28. IMO, definitely won't be the reason and will not happen.

2 - to be a niche/halo car. Nope again. Not sure if this would even justify a new Z/28 to the bean counters. High priced niche/halo cars tend to sit on lots and draw dust especially when greedy dealers slam on high ADMs. Again, I seriously doubt this would tip the Z/28 build into the 'Likely' category.

3 - to meet market demand and make money. IMO, this would be the ONLY reason GM would probably build and offer a 6th Gen Z/28. It would not be a direct competitor to the ZL1 1LE and would more likely be a head to head competitor of the GT 350 (non R version).

As Ford offers a GT350 and the GT350R, in that mindset, a Z/28 would be a marketable product.

I don't see it happening but if I were the one pitching the idea to the board at GM, this is the angle I would use to present the idea. A $50-$55K Z/28 would sell and probably sell pretty darn good. Make it a bit quicker than the 1LE but not as hairy chested as the ZL1 1LE, garnish it with some Z/28 specific trim/aero, a different engine, and there you have it.
This ^^^^ It just needs to be the best handling N/A Camaro. It does NOT have to be the fastest Camaro in the line up
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Old 10-19-2017, 06:49 AM   #87
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I think it comes down to the reason(s?) why GM would actually offer a 6th Gen Z/28.


3 - to meet market demand and make money. IMO, this would be the ONLY reason GM would probably build and offer a 6th Gen Z/28. It would not be a direct competitor to the ZL1 1LE and would more likely be a head to head competitor of the GT 350 (non R version).


I don't see it happening but if I were the one pitching the idea to the board at GM, this is the angle I would use to present the idea. A $50-$55K Z/28 would sell and probably sell pretty darn good. Make it a bit quicker than the 1LE but not as hairy chested as the ZL1 1LE, garnish it with some Z/28 specific trim/aero, a different engine, and there you have it.


Let's hope GM does exactly this !
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:20 AM   #88
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Much of what you guys are asking for is very plausible. If, only for a moment, consider a Z/28 that starts life as a standard 1LE with a package, per se, that has GM’s LT1 hot cam+cnc heads on a car with DSSV shocks and a square tire (305) setup. That shouldn’t bump the price too high but, it would make for a fun factory car priced in between a 1LE and a ZL1.

I completely understand that the GM hot cam would never be found in a production vehicle but, a variant with less chop, might. This is essentially asking them to put the LT376/535 engine in the car.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:16 AM   #89
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IMO, there's only one slot left empty in the Camaro line up. It would be a car that would follow the example of the Corvette Grand Sport.

The Z/28 would have all the appearance and track goodies found on the ZL1 1LE, with the N/A LT1 engine. Price it between the SS 1LE and the ZL1 and it would be in a great slot for those that want something a little special, but not really looking for all the power or the LT4, or just prefer N/A over all. I'm sure that there would be a good collection of people that would go for a car like this. (They make the rear wing an option on the car, however, or at least offer a choice)
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:27 AM   #90
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IMO, there's only one slot left empty in the Camaro line up. It would be a car that would follow the example of the Corvette Grand Sport.

The Z/28 would have all the appearance and track goodies found on the ZL1 1LE, with the N/A LT1 engine. Price it between the SS 1LE and the ZL1 and it would be in a great slot for those that want something a little special, but not really looking for all the power or the LT4, or just prefer N/A over all. I'm sure that there would be a good collection of people that would go for a car like this. (They make the rear wing an option on the car, however, or at least offer a choice)
Yep - and I would buy it immediately.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:02 AM   #91
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They could still come out with a drag race version with a VIN.
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Old 10-19-2017, 12:06 PM   #92
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Old 10-19-2017, 07:41 PM   #93
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Yep - and I would buy it immediately.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:01 AM   #94
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I get the Z/28 to Grand Sport comparison. I still feel like both should have some sort of engine upgrade over the base V8 versions. The C4 Grand Sport went from LT-1 to LT-4 with a bump in power. If you really want to go with heritage, the Grand Sport should be like the ZL1 1LE and become practically a race car, just like the originals were. The Z06 option would add components to the production cars to qualify for those parts for the racing world. The Grand Sport was never a production car initially, strictly racing thoroughbred. I would be perfectly happy with a "hot cam" or "head/cam" equipped SS 1LE as a Z/28, with the wider fenders of the ZL1(therefore wider tires of the ZL1 1LE) yet keep the SS bumper/grill.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:50 AM   #95
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It wouldn't surprise me if they waited until the last year of the generation.
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Old 10-22-2017, 02:44 PM   #96
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Heard yesterday from a high end independant car/motorcycle sales dealership owner that GM is making a Z/28 in 2018.... we'll see I guess. Cant always believe what you hear.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:40 PM   #97
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Would make sense for GM to wait for new Shelby GT 500 to come out and see where it performs versus ZL1 and ZL1 1LE - if they decide a response is needed - then maybe a Z/28 comes along or maybe they don a new Camaro model the ZR1 with more power than ZL1.
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Old 10-22-2017, 09:16 PM   #98
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Would make sense for GM to wait for new Shelby GT 500 to come out and see where it performs versus ZL1 and ZL1 1LE - if they decide a response is needed - then maybe a Z/28 comes along or maybe they don a new Camaro model the ZR1 with more power than ZL1.
I believe the next year and a half belongs to the corvette and the facelift for the camaro. I doubt that GM is even thinking about a Z28 right now.
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