Homepage Garage Wiki Register Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > CAMARO6.com General Forums > 2016+ Camaro: 6th Gen Camaro general forum


BeckyD @ James Martin Chevy


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-03-2012, 05:18 PM   #71
trewyn15


 
trewyn15's Avatar
 
Drives: 2004 Monte Carlo LS
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Janesville, WI
Posts: 2,414
Quote:
Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post


Obviously you people aren't familiar with just how good GM's 2.0T is. There's a reason a lot of people prefer the ATS 2.0T over the more powerful LFX.


'You people' that you are referring too are pretty familiar.. Doesn't mean we want a 2.0T in a Camaro. Let me say that again, a CAMARO.

What's more important to sales? Your opinion (as a seller) or our opinion (as your target market). Now I'm no marketing major, but I think it goes without saying that our opinion is far more important.
__________________
2004 Monte Carlo LS - 1966 AMC Rambler Rebel Classic - 2000 Trans Am WS6
trewyn15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 05:19 PM   #72
2ssx2
 
2ssx2's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 2ss se/ 2009 cobalt ss
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 241
Quote:
Originally Posted by vroomapunk View Post
Your cobalt is fast, at the expense of good looks and being a nice sized car. The camaro will never be as small as the civics and cobalts of today. You are preaching to the wrong group if you think we want a really fast go kart, instead of a big aggressive looking car.

Obviously any car on a diet will be faster, I just dont think a turbo 2.0L will be all that quick, I also dont think they are trying to make it fast. Just a more efficient base model that wont be faster than todays V6 camaro.

I would be more concerned with it if I was younger, but now that Ive had my first SS, Im sure I wont own anything with less than 8cylinders in the future, unless its a GTR.
I have a new Camaro on order. Look at it this way.

Alpha Platform gen 6
base model with 2.0 turbo= 25,000
15k in motor work, exhaust, and bigger turbo = 600 plus hp

Alpha platform gen 6
SS model LS3=40K
430hp
2ssx2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 05:35 PM   #73
1camaro70
 
1camaro70's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS RS L99
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: BUTLER, PA
Posts: 531
The car I traded for my SS was a 2.0 turbo, VW Audi have up to 265/ 258 hp/tq AND all wheel drive, give me this in the Camaro at 3600 lbs. and I would buy, hate parking it in winter now.
1camaro70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 05:37 PM   #74
motorhead


 
Drives: Love the one you're with
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Downtown Charlie Brown
Posts: 11,850
If it's fast and still looks decent, I don't care what engines they drop in. You people have to remember that GM knows they already gave us old timers our car to relive our youth. Now they need to get something out there that young people want to keep the fire burning for GM products. Every manufacturer is heading this direction and there is nothing we can do about it. Thank high fuel mileage standards and high fuel prices for what is going on.
motorhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #75
zogster
 
Drives: 2014 RRM ZL1 M6
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: IL
Posts: 659
I test drove an ATS with the turbo 2.0L 4cyl. It's just as quick as the Camaro V6, and I drove an automatic ATS (my Camaro is stick). I'm sure it would have felt quicker with the stick.

The ATS goes around corners way better than my Camaro. The difference is crazy. I'd pick a turbo ATS dressed up as a Camaro over what I have right now, and that's essentially what we'll get with the 6th gen.
zogster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #76
z28racer

 
z28racer's Avatar
 
Drives: 12 SIM 2SS/ RS Sinergy M6,GMC2500HD
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 1,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by midnighter View Post
Thank God I was one of the fortunate ones who got to pick up a brand new Camaro while they still look beautiful and got big cojones under the hood.
+10
z28racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 05:43 PM   #77
z28racer

 
z28racer's Avatar
 
Drives: 12 SIM 2SS/ RS Sinergy M6,GMC2500HD
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 1,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran View Post
And how do you know the next Camaro won't also look beautiful and also still have big cojones under the hood (albeit with the additional option for smaller/more efficient engines)? You don't.
It is going to be hard to top this beauty!!! Even Scott (F-Bodfather) mentioned that at are meeting !!
z28racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 06:12 PM   #78
whitessrs
20TENSS (Chad)
 
whitessrs's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 summit white 2SS/RS
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Gonzales,LA.
Posts: 496
4 cylinder Camaro= GARBAGE!!!!!
__________________
2010 2SS/RS Dynatech headers,high flow cats,MBRP 3" cat back exhaust,Cold Air Inductions filter,custom tune by EPS,BMR 1" lowering springs.TSW nurburgrings powder coated matte black.RK sport rear spoiler.SLP front splitter

whitessrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 06:16 PM   #79
The_Blur
Moderator
 
The_Blur's Avatar
 
Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 14,769
Send a message via AIM to The_Blur
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran View Post
And how do you know the next Camaro won't also look beautiful and also still have big cojones under the hood (albeit with the additional option for smaller/more efficient engines)? You don't.
No one in here can honestly tell me that the Regal 2.0T isn't fast. No one in here can honestly tell me the Cobalt 2.0T wasn't fast. GM didn't do this to the current Camaro due to simple physics. Mass requires a certain amount of acceleration to move the way a Camaro moves. With less mass, less acceleration is necessary to still be fun.
__________________
RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet//
Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR
RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN.
warn 145:159 ban
The_Blur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 06:16 PM   #80
Iam Broke
PHAT B33
 
Iam Broke's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Dark of the Moon
Posts: 1,460
One more from my friend Terminator 2 that tuned this Sky. 368 hp, stock turbo 4 banger LNF. 4.1 sec 60-100.



http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/a...616_181926.jpg

I want a V-8 in my Camaro too, just saying it's a viable alternative for the current V-6 replacement.

I'm not sold on the DI due to valve coking issues, I fought it for the 65k miles I had on my LNF. Also lost a DI injector seal or two at 40k on an ethanol blend. Seals have improved since 2008.

I've owned V-8 musclecars since my '65 Malibu SS in '74 but the tuned LNF was the fastest thing I ever had. It would walk away from Phat Bee 60-100.
__________________
Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.
Iam Broke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 06:20 PM   #81
GearBangr
 
Drives: 97Z,02TA
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: TX
Posts: 174
To me, the 5th gen is one of the best looking cars on the road. Having said that, I can't wait to see what they do with the alpha platform. I don't think they can mess it up, I have no doubt it will look great.
Here's what I think it will be..

Base: 2.0T 280-300HP, 3300lbs $22k
SS: LT1 V8 470HP, 3500lbs $30k
Z28: LT4 v8 600HP, 3600 lbs $50k

When the ATSV comes out with what I'm guessing will be a na LT1, we will see a preview of what a 6th gen SS will run like.
They may squeeze a 3.6 in there somewhere, but I don't see where it would be needed.
I think they are getting away from offering 5 different engines in the same car.
I don't see why so many of you are so hell bent against a 4 cylinder. If you don't like it, just get the v8. But MOST people that just want a Camaro because its a nice car and they like the way it looks, its a great idea. Same concept as the 5th gen 3.6, most people that drive them have no idea what engine is in it, and never go past 50% throttle or past 4k rpm. And that's fine, that's what they like. The extra mpg is just an extra kicker for them.
GearBangr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 06:34 PM   #82
swizlstik

 
swizlstik's Avatar
 
Drives: 2018 Garnet ZL1
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Surprise, AZ
Posts: 2,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran View Post
And how do you know the next Camaro won't also look beautiful and also still have big cojones under the hood (albeit with the additional option for smaller/more efficient engines)? You don't.

I'm just happy that there will be a 6th Gen. and the car won't get canned again!
__________________
swizlstik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 06:40 PM   #83
FenwickHockey65
General Motors Aficionado
 
FenwickHockey65's Avatar
 
Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 37,371
Send a message via AIM to FenwickHockey65
Quote:
Originally Posted by trewyn15 View Post


'You people' that you are referring too are pretty familiar.. Doesn't mean we want a 2.0T in a Camaro. Let me say that again, a CAMARO.

What's more important to sales? Your opinion (as a seller) or our opinion (as your target market). Now I'm no marketing major, but I think it goes without saying that our opinion is far more important.
1) A ton of people in this thread have already stated that they're fine with a 2.0T Camaro. Again, it's not like they're eliminating the V8. The 2.0T will be the base engine.
2) A 2.0T Alpha-based Camaro would perform as well as or perhaps BETTER than an LFX Zeta-based Camaro.
3) Target markets evolve. Considering what Ford and the rest of the competition is doing, the 2.0T is right in line with expectations.
__________________
2023 GMC Canyon Elevation
2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)
FenwickHockey65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2012, 06:50 PM   #84
Tati
I ♥ my Camaro
 
Tati's Avatar
 
Drives: Black 2LT, RS w/ Sunroof. SRY0FZR
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Manassas, Virginia
Posts: 17
Send a message via Yahoo to Tati
Sooo...if you want to save gas why do you buy muscle cars in the first place?
__________________
You are what you drive!
Tati is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply

Tags
2015 camaro, 2015 chevrolet camaro, 2015 chevy camaro, 6th gen camaro, 6th gen chevrolet camaro, 6th gen chevy camaro, 6th generation camaro, alpha camaro, alpha platform camaro, camaro 4 cylinder turbo, camaro alpha platform, turbo 4 camaro, turbo 4 cylinder camaro

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.