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JacobC1983 · 03-13-2015, 08:38 PM

Sometimes I rev my ZL1 at stop lights just to make sure others don't confuse me with a Prius....

WOLFHOUND · 03-13-2015, 08:43 PM

My licence plate is GAS YUM, economy was never a concern!

hotlap · 03-13-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JacobC1983

Sometimes I rev my ZL1 at stop lights just to make sure others don't confuse me with a Prius....

JacobC1983 · 03-13-2015, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

That's fantastic. Sending to my buddy with a corvette now...

LC8Junkie · 03-14-2015, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vroom

How does it get 14mpg average? I do 17-19 on average with commuting and backroad fun.

I think the tester was having a whole bunch of fun!!! Then he has to impress his peers and say how bad this evil environment destroying gas guzzler is....

KaBoom1701 · 03-14-2015, 08:56 AM

Loud and proud!

harmonyp · 03-14-2015, 09:52 AM

Another related, interesting link:
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/24/c...zler-tax-list/

Interestingly the city # on most of these cars are merely 1 mpg above the ZL1. We all know the hwy #'s are pipe-dreams unless the only time you drive your car is on the interstate.

Also interesting is the comment that the mustang GT didn't make the list. And just how many mustang GTs do you think are out there that aren't modded to the extent that they get the same, or worse gas mileage than the stock ZL1.

hognutz · 03-14-2015, 03:05 PM

since when is 4100lb pig a compact car ha ha. just try parking in a compact space and opening your door.

the mileage on this cars is not good it heavy and has low compression.

ZO6 Bryan · 03-15-2015, 03:47 PM

EPA classifies cars by interior volume. Passenger compartment and trunk combined. the Camaro is rated EPA INTERIOR VOLUME 93.0 cu.ft.

ChocoTaco369 · 03-15-2015, 03:51 PM

I don't really understand the logic behind articles like this.

The Camaro is not a compact car. It is, actually, a gigantic luxury platform that has been retrofit into a modern muscle car. It makes more sense to classify the Camaro as a luxury vehicle than a compact. It is essentially an Australian Cadillac.

But that's just a minor gripe. The real problem is rating high-end sports cars by fuel economy. People are not buying these vehicles for fuel efficiency. They are buying them for performance. And unlike many of the cars in that article, the Camaro excels at "every day performance." You probably can't daily drive an Aston Martin, Bentley, Ferrari or Rolls Royce. I don't think you'll want to pull into the ACME parking lot with that and park next to a minivan full of a mom and three screaming kids. The ZL1 can pick up your groceries. Slap a set of Gmax's on it and it'll pick up your groceries in 6 inches of snow. I may have an SS, but it's essentially the same vehicle. We got 10 inches of snow last week and my alley was entirely unplowed. I pulled out of my driveway and drove the 100 yards uphill through the unplowed alley with no issue through the 10 inches of fresh snow. The car laughed at it.

That kind of versatility is impressive. I am with Joshua Kennon when it comes to fuel economy.

http://www.joshuakennon.com/if-the-p...oing-it-wrong/

The difference between 15mpg and 30mpg is $20 a week. Maybe $30, tops. If $20-30 a week is blowing your budget, you need to seriously sit back and evaluate your lifestyle and reassess your finances. If you are buying a $60,000 high horsepower vehicle and gas prices are breaking the budget, you are, quite frankly, an idiot.

OUTATIME · 03-15-2015, 03:52 PM

The article calls out others like the Hellcat and dings the "Big 3". These cars are all such low volume. What the hell are they whining about?

ZO6 Bryan · 03-15-2015, 04:02 PM

The size class for cars is based on interior passenger and cargo volumes as described below. The size class for trucks is defined by the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), which is the weight of the vehicle and its carrying capacity. Fuel economy regulations do not apply to heavy-duty vehicles, so they are not tested. See Which Vehicles Are Tested for more information on these vehicles.

Vehicle Size Classes Used in the Fuel Economy Guide

CARS

Class Passenger & Cargo Volume (Cu. Ft.)

Two-Seaters Any (cars designed to seat only two adults)
Sedans
Minicompact < 85
Subcompact 85 to 99
Compact 100 to 109
Mid-Size 110 to 119
Large 120 or more
Station Wagons
Small < 130
Mid-Size 130 to 159
Large 160 or more

ZO6 Bryan · 03-15-2015, 04:04 PM

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/best-worst.shtml

I think there are some pretty impressive cars in the "worst" list.

Sven59 · 03-15-2015, 04:07 PM

I am sure they use this formula because it provides the government the highest revenue. They need to come up with a better formula that takes into account weight etc.

03-14-2015, 08:56 AM	#48
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Loud and proud! __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

03-14-2015, 03:05 PM	#50
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	since when is 4100lb pig a compact car ha ha. just try parking in a compact space and opening your door. the mileage on this cars is not good it heavy and has low compression. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

03-15-2015, 03:47 PM	#51
ZO6 Bryan Drives: 02 Z06, 95 Trans Am, 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southeast Posts: 1,838 View My Garage	EPA classifies cars by interior volume. Passenger compartment and trunk combined. the Camaro is rated EPA INTERIOR VOLUME 93.0 cu.ft. __________________ Bryan 2018 ZL1 M6

03-15-2015, 03:51 PM	#52
ChocoTaco369 145lb Powerlifter Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Conshohocken, PA Posts: 1,146	I don't really understand the logic behind articles like this. The Camaro is not a compact car. It is, actually, a gigantic luxury platform that has been retrofit into a modern muscle car. It makes more sense to classify the Camaro as a luxury vehicle than a compact. It is essentially an Australian Cadillac. But that's just a minor gripe. The real problem is rating high-end sports cars by fuel economy. People are not buying these vehicles for fuel efficiency. They are buying them for performance. And unlike many of the cars in that article, the Camaro excels at "every day performance." You probably can't daily drive an Aston Martin, Bentley, Ferrari or Rolls Royce. I don't think you'll want to pull into the ACME parking lot with that and park next to a minivan full of a mom and three screaming kids. The ZL1 can pick up your groceries. Slap a set of Gmax's on it and it'll pick up your groceries in 6 inches of snow. I may have an SS, but it's essentially the same vehicle. We got 10 inches of snow last week and my alley was entirely unplowed. I pulled out of my driveway and drove the 100 yards uphill through the unplowed alley with no issue through the 10 inches of fresh snow. The car laughed at it. That kind of versatility is impressive. I am with Joshua Kennon when it comes to fuel economy. http://www.joshuakennon.com/if-the-p...oing-it-wrong/ The difference between 15mpg and 30mpg is $20 a week. Maybe $30, tops. If $20-30 a week is blowing your budget, you need to seriously sit back and evaluate your lifestyle and reassess your finances. If you are buying a $60,000 high horsepower vehicle and gas prices are breaking the budget, you are, quite frankly, an idiot. __________________

03-15-2015, 04:02 PM	#54
ZO6 Bryan Drives: 02 Z06, 95 Trans Am, 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southeast Posts: 1,838 View My Garage	The size class for cars is based on interior passenger and cargo volumes as described below. The size class for trucks is defined by the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), which is the weight of the vehicle and its carrying capacity. Fuel economy regulations do not apply to heavy-duty vehicles, so they are not tested. See Which Vehicles Are Tested for more information on these vehicles. Vehicle Size Classes Used in the Fuel Economy Guide CARS Class Passenger & Cargo Volume (Cu. Ft.) Two-Seaters Any (cars designed to seat only two adults) Sedans Minicompact < 85 Subcompact 85 to 99 Compact 100 to 109 Mid-Size 110 to 119 Large 120 or more Station Wagons Small < 130 Mid-Size 130 to 159 Large 160 or more __________________ Bryan 2018 ZL1 M6

03-13-2015, 08:38 PM	#43
JacobC1983 Drives: 2019 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Missouri Posts: 488	Sometimes I rev my ZL1 at stop lights just to make sure others don't confuse me with a Prius....

03-13-2015, 08:43 PM	#44
WOLFHOUND Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: KING COUNTY WA Posts: 12	My licence plate is GAS YUM, economy was never a concern!

03-14-2015, 09:52 AM	#49
harmonyp Drives: 2015 ZL1 Silver Ice Metallic Manual Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: NorCal Posts: 249	Another related, interesting link: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/24/c...zler-tax-list/ Interestingly the city # on most of these cars are merely 1 mpg above the ZL1. We all know the hwy #'s are pipe-dreams unless the only time you drive your car is on the interstate. Also interesting is the comment that the mustang GT didn't make the list. And just how many mustang GTs do you think are out there that aren't modded to the extent that they get the same, or worse gas mileage than the stock ZL1.

03-15-2015, 03:52 PM	#53
OUTATIME Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 633	The article calls out others like the Hellcat and dings the "Big 3". These cars are all such low volume. What the hell are they whining about?

03-15-2015, 04:04 PM	#55
ZO6 Bryan Drives: 02 Z06, 95 Trans Am, 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southeast Posts: 1,838 View My Garage	http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/best-worst.shtml I think there are some pretty impressive cars in the "worst" list. __________________ Bryan 2018 ZL1 M6

03-15-2015, 04:07 PM	#56
Sven59 HAMMER PILOT Drives: 13 ZL1#182, 85 CJ7, 16 Silverado Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 4,386	I am sure they use this formula because it provides the government the highest revenue. They need to come up with a better formula that takes into account weight etc. __________________ "DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN?"