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Old 08-27-2015, 01:12 PM   #29
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Why do you hate this car?

If the stock 5th gen is capable of doing 12.6 - 12.7 stock at its max potential and optimal conditions, I just don't see any logical reason why less weight, more power and superior torque curve, and an 8-speed can't shave AT LEAST 2 or three tenths off that.

I don't know what the GM advertised 1/4 mile times are on the 5th gen SS, but I'm guessing they are 12.9 - 13 flat? So for this car I can see their advertised times as mid 12s at least, and in the hands of owners we will see low 12s....100%.

The ONLY negative I can see, are the run flats on the SS, which likely have a stiffer sidewall which will equate to more difficult launches.
GM advertises 12.9@113mph for the ls3 ss.

I believe 12.7 for the 1le. It is on the website.

They will advertise mid 12s at least. 115+ mph. Let the haters hate who cares. Most of the time it's just jealousy. If they truly didn't care why even comment? Go enjoy your own car instead lol
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Old 08-27-2015, 02:49 PM   #30
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Looks more like stupidity then hate
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Old 08-27-2015, 03:09 PM   #31
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Looks more like stupidity then hate
mix and match...either could apply here.

it is obvious this car will run mid 12's with the a8 worst case scenario with any decent traction and DA.

Anyone who disagrees just doesnt know cars/and or being a hater.
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Old 08-30-2015, 05:57 PM   #32
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Agree, only I suspect lateral G's to be less spectacular than what you're guessing.
Maybe I missed something, but why is everyone thinking the lateral G's are gonna be that much less than 1g?

Reason I was guessing around 1g, give or take, was because of what my current car is capable of with lateral G's. With crappy Goodyear tires, about the same size in the rear and slightly bigger in the front (285 in the rear and 265 in the front), the car was able to get .98g's from Motor Trends tests. And that's with a solid rear axle and more weight than what the SS is supposed to weigh.

I figured the 2016 Camaro SS, with the weight reduction, independent rear suspension, more rigid chassis and magnetic ride control, should be able to obtain around a G of lateral grip if my current car was able to.

I'm not looking to argue, I'm just wondering if I missed something. Is my logic messed up?
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Old 08-30-2015, 06:04 PM   #33
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All I know is I'm anxious to see them on the road. Times better beat 10.5-10.8 proven with the Hellcat.
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Old 08-30-2015, 06:28 PM   #34
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Old 08-30-2015, 06:58 PM   #35
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A little off topic but in keeping with the tire talk above, the 20" tires that come on the V6 with RS package are they also run flats and are they also summer only?
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Old 08-30-2015, 07:19 PM   #36
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They are all season run flats.

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Old 08-31-2015, 11:18 AM   #37
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Maybe I missed something, but why is everyone thinking the lateral G's are gonna be that much less than 1g?

Reason I was guessing around 1g, give or take, was because of what my current car is capable of with lateral G's. With crappy Goodyear tires, about the same size in the rear and slightly bigger in the front (285 in the rear and 265 in the front), the car was able to get .98g's from Motor Trends tests. And that's with a solid rear axle and more weight than what the SS is supposed to weigh.

I figured the 2016 Camaro SS, with the weight reduction, independent rear suspension, more rigid chassis and magnetic ride control, should be able to obtain around a G of lateral grip if my current car was able to.

I'm not looking to argue, I'm just wondering if I missed something. Is my logic messed up?
bump on this one. I don't know, I feel like 1g of grip is possible with the listed improvements they said they have made and judging from other platforms that aren't even as advanced as this one.
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Old 08-31-2015, 11:14 PM   #38
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1/4 mile-12.6 seconds @ 113 mph
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1/4 mile - 12.4 seconds @ 112 mph
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:37 AM   #39
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:08 PM   #40
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:24 PM   #41
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Maybe I missed something, but why is everyone thinking the lateral G's are gonna be that much less than 1g?

Reason I was guessing around 1g, give or take, was because of what my current car is capable of with lateral G's. With crappy Goodyear tires, about the same size in the rear and slightly bigger in the front (285 in the rear and 265 in the front), the car was able to get .98g's from Motor Trends tests. And that's with a solid rear axle and more weight than what the SS is supposed to weigh.

I figured the 2016 Camaro SS, with the weight reduction, independent rear suspension, more rigid chassis and magnetic ride control, should be able to obtain around a G of lateral grip if my current car was able to.

I'm not looking to argue, I'm just wondering if I missed something. Is my logic messed up?
A G8 GT does NOT pull .98 in lateral G's, more like .88. Maybe you mistyped.

The reason I do not see the 1SS or 2SS pulling more than .94-.95, at best, is easy. The cars are engineered for ride comfort geared toward the non-enthusiast buyer. Now, if you get the MRC option, I could see better numbers, but in base form, I think not.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:42 PM   #42
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A G8 GT does NOT pull .98 in lateral G's, more like .88. Maybe you mistyped.

The reason I do not see the 1SS or 2SS pulling more than .94-.95, at best, is easy. The cars are engineered for ride comfort geared toward the non-enthusiast buyer. Now, if you get the MRC option, I could see better numbers, but in base form, I think not.


Even without the MRC and runflat tires, I think it can probably pull about 0.97.
I'll try to pull over 1G with some sticky non-runflat tires on 2SS w/ MRC, and let you know.

With my C6 Vette on summer tires, I got around 1.2G on track, per G-meter on my HUD. With Hoosier A6, I got over 1.3.
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