08-26-2015, 11:40 AM | #57 |
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Everyone is forgetting that 200 pounds difference sounds good until you add on options. Think for a second why does the ZL1 weigh 4,100 pounds? Great suspension, huge rear end (9.9 inches), supercharged. The crazy thing is the block is aluminum and it stills weights 4100 pounds! My predicition is the magnetic ride suspension and parts add 200 pounds alone.
If you get a 2016 camaro SS, auto, magnetic ride control, NPP exhaust, moon roof, ect your going to be looking at 3,800 pounds anyways. All of those options just add weight.
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08-26-2015, 12:35 PM | #60 |
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So now I've heard MRC weighs 40lbs and I read somewhere else it adds like 10lbs.
Hard to believe different shocks and maybe a few sensors weighs 40lbs MORE than standard suspension. |
08-26-2015, 12:38 PM | #61 |
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Think was 10lbs per wheel, may have even been 7lbs. 40 was rough estimate based on that thread, but can't find it now.
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08-26-2015, 01:06 PM | #62 | |
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Mag ride is not that heavy compared to a normal suspension. The extra suspension weight on the ZL1 comes from all the stuff they added/reinforced, same with the rear end. But nearly half the added weight of the ZL1 comes from the engine itself. I think I remember seeing that the LSA weighs about 120 lbs more than the LS3
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08-26-2015, 02:30 PM | #63 |
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I can see 10 lbs per shock in added weight. These are special dampers filled with a relatively heavy solution. The solution is filled with ferrous metals, thus the can be magnetically controlled.
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MRC looks to not add very much weight...maybe 25 - 40 pounds? No matter...MRC (if it were available) + base 2SS weight in the 5th gen would have you sitting at least 3,950 pounds or more. So if the 2016 2SS with MRC has us in the 3,750 to 3,800 pound range, I'd say we are sitting nicely. In my case, I have a 1SS with NPP and the 8 speed on order. It will likely be within just a few pounds of the lightest configurable SS you can get, and I fully expect it to be well under 3,800 pounds. I'm thinking closer to 3,750 (and hoping under that lol...its certainly VERY possible based on the 200+ pounds lost) , and the 1SS isn't what I'd call close to "stripped". I'm not seeing any issues here.
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09-26-2015, 09:46 PM | #65 |
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He sheepishly walks back over to the mike, picks it up and says, "I told you so" . lol. Apparently, though, others have had the same prediction, unfortunately I missed those posts. We should all be happy that GM appears to have hit a home run with the new Camaro. I, for one, can't wait to see just how good it is when it starts getting into some owner's hands.
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09-27-2015, 01:15 PM | #66 |
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Yup same here! There always gonna be a better faster car... Let's just enjoy it... It's not like we're gonna be racing everywhere we go.
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09-27-2015, 05:49 PM | #67 |
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It WILL run 11.99 hero run with great temp/track/driver.
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09-28-2015, 12:10 AM | #69 |
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if it has an eight speed auto numbers could peak 11's. Will need to see gearing. However, Look at the scat pack hitting 11's with a tune and DR's. but dodges 8 speed auto matched with their rear end works out to be like a 5.88 rear end ration in first.
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09-28-2015, 06:49 PM | #70 |
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Those aren't "low 12's" track times.
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