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Old 06-29-2014, 07:29 PM   #225
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So what kind of car is Berra driving regularly, is she a CTS chick, or a CTS-V kinda lady? ala



Or do I need to when I hear the answer? lol

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Well maybe Mary Berra had Al over for dinner and convinced him differently.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:36 PM   #226
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:37 PM   #227
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Shrinkdoc is known for drive by postings. He's a troll. He has no real information. He is willing to post anything to see if anyone is gullible enough to repeat what he says.

There are no publicly available specifications about the LGX, especially the HP.
It's really annoying. Should really ban him from this section.
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:41 PM   #228
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It's really annoying. Should really ban him from this section.
Actually, his "handle" gives him away. He's either seeking psychiatric help...or he's been immersed in cold water far toooooo long...
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:43 PM   #229
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Really, as a DD? If so, which model?

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Old 06-29-2014, 07:47 PM   #230
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How reliable is your twin turbo set up? Will I need any other new parts to accommodate twin turbos?
So as to not hijack this thread any moee than it has been, why don't you post your questions in my build thread?

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Old 06-29-2014, 07:50 PM   #231
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Really, as a DD? If so, which model?
Pretty sure her personal car is a 2010 Camaro SS. Although I've also heard she drives a CTS but that might be her company car.
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:14 PM   #232
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Pretty sure her personal car is a 2010 Camaro SS. Although I've also heard she drives a CTS but that might be her company car.
I've read she owns one. Nice, but could be her husbands car. Rules to participate in the company car program is you must have a current or previous model year car in your name. Only exclusion is if your spouse gets a company car or if you are single.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:50 PM   #233
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So any commentary on the article that suggests the next a Camaro will grow in size with the next generation?



Reports suggest the next-generation Chevrolet Camaro won't look too different from the current model, but there may be big changes in store beneath the sheetmetal. The 2016 Camaro will grow in size, but also gain an optional four-cylinder engine, according to a new report from Automobile Magazine.

The magazine reports that the Camaro will switch to General Motors Alpha platform as expected, but that it will be based on the long-wheelbase version used by the Cadillac CTS, not the short-wheelbase version used by the ATS.

At 114.6 inches, that would leave the 2016 Camaro with a wheelbase 2.3 inches longer than the current car's and 7.5 inches longer than the 2015 Ford Mustang's, but slightly shorter than the current Dodge Challenger's wheelbase.

The growth may be planned to allow room for a smaller sports car that could compete with the Subaru BRZ/Scion FR-S twins and the Mazda MX-5 Miata. This entry-level model could be based on either the rear-wheel-drive Code 130R or front-wheel-drive Tru 140S concepts from 2012.

In the powertrain department, the 2016 Camaro may also get a four-cylinder engine option, likely a version of the 2.0-liter turbocharged unit that produces 272 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque in the Cadillac ATS and CTS. Of course, V-6 and V-8 units should continue to be available.

The obvious bogey here is the 2015 Mustang EcoBoost, although Chevy may need to tweak its engine a bit to match Ford's 2.3-liter, which is promised to deliver more than 305 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque.

The new Camaro is expected to make its first public appearance in early 2015, and go on sale later that year.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...r-power-report
Actually ford is planning on using the ecoboost engine as an upgrade over the v6. Where as gm is planning on using the 2.0t engine as the base engine for the camaro.
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:36 AM   #234
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Just go the Mazda route and put a rotary
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:45 AM   #235
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Hey Fen, do you know if GM will market the Camaro in Europe as Ford is marketing the Mustang? That would be another plus for the 4 cylinder turbo.



First 500 Ford Mustangs For Europe Sell Out In 30 Seconds
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Ford recently opened up the order books for its 2015 Mustang in Europe, and within 30 seconds the first 500 cars destined for the old continent were snapped up. In an interesting move, Ford Motor Company [NYSE:F] opened up the order books during last weekend’s final for the UEFA Champions League, which saw Real Madrid CF beat Club Atlético de Madrid 4-1 after extra time. It proved successful, with more than 9,300 orders garnered from Mustang fans hopeful to be among the first 500 owners of the sixth-generation pony car in Europe.

The 500 new Mustangs were allocated across 20 countries. Ford will in the next few weeks contact the buyers from each of these countries who were quickest to place their reservation to let them know they have been successful. Each buyer will then be invited to complete their order at a dealership later this year but will have to wait until 2015 for delivery. Deliveries here are expected to start this fall.

Ford limited the first 500 examples to either Race Red for buyers interested in the coupe or Magnetic Silver for the convertible. The buyers also have to choose from either the Mustang EcoBoost model or Mustang GT. The base Mustang equipped with a V-6 won’t be offered in Europe.

All 500 examples will feature Ford’s latest SYNC system; navigation; heated and ventilated seats; Park Assist; black leather trim; chrome detailing; and 19-inch alloy wheels.

This is the first time in the Mustang's 50-year history that the car is being sold in Europe by Ford. Previous generations were typically sold in limited numbers by third party importers.
I'm guessing more turbo 4 cylinders were pre-ordered than V8's.
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Original plan is for the 6th gen to be a global car.
Cool, I thought that it would be, especially since the smaller dimensions are mentioned for the 6th gen. Here's another good article talking about the importance of a 4 cylinder in the Mustang and mentions its advantage over the Camaro in certain markets


A Look at Why the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost Matters
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While Ford Motor Company is expecting the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost to be fairly popular both in the United States and overseas, some are brushing off this new turbocharged engine as little more than a short-run redeux of the old SVO Mustang – but there is a good chance that this engine could play a very big role in the future of the model.

As soon as the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost was made official, the comparisons to the SVO and Turbo GT Mustangs of the fox body era were rampant…and for good reason. Like the SVO and Turbo GT models, the 2015 EcoBoost Mustang serves as a midlevel model between the base V6 and the Mustang GT. Like the SVO and Turbo GT models, the 2015 EcoBoost Mustang is powered by a 2.3L 4-cylinder engine that relies on advanced (for the time) turbocharging technology to make impressive levels of power for such a small engine.

However, unlike the Fox Body SVO and Turbo GT Mustangs, the 2015 Mustang EcoBoost is likely to become far more than just a future collectable sold simply to show off what the automaker is capable of relative to its competitors. The SVO and Turbo GT models were very short lived and sales of those models played a very small part in the success of the Mustang during those years, but the modern turbocharged 4-cylinder model is very likely to make a big splash…one that could make it the better selling option over the base V6.

No Shame in Driving a Turbo 4 Mustang
There are people in the muscle car world who believe strongly that any American performance car should only have a V8 with a manual transmission so while the 2015 Ford Mustang with a V6 is “bad enough”, the idea of a 4-cylidner muscle car is literally blasphemous. They don’t think that there is any real advantage in offering the EcoBoost 4-cylinder into the Mustang since it offers only minor advantages in power and fuel economy, so why bother at all?

It should be kept in mind that more than half of all of the American muscle cars (Mustang, Chevy Camaro, Dodge Challenger) sold in America are powered by the base V6 engine. In other words, more than half of the people who buy a Mustang aren’t worried about driving a V8 or about driving the most powerful muscle car on the street. Those buyers care more about the look of the Mustang so for them, something like a touch more power and a slight advantage in fuel economy is an attractive improvement. A guy who has owned 4 Mustang GT models over the years might not understand, but more than 50% of new Mustang buyers aren’t interested in the V8 and the EcoBoost is just plain better than the 3.7L V6…even if only by a small margin.

The V6 is in Need of Replacing
The 3.7L V6 that will serve as the base model engine in the 2015 Ford Mustang has been the entry level engine in the fabled pony car since 2010 and this Duratec V6 has done an excellent job of proving solid power and efficiency for base model buyers. However, the Duratec V6 engine is getting to be sort of old as engines go and it is time for something new. After Ford basically promised that there would be a EcoBoost Mustang at some point, many expected to see an EcoBoost V6 similar to the one at work in the Ford F150 and Taurus SHO, but the Motor Company shook things up by introducing the new 2.3L EcoBoost.

As the life cycle of the 3.7L V6 comes to an end, the future Ford Mustang will need a new base engine. Ford could have engineered a new V6 that offers comparable horsepower, but with the spread and success of EcoBoost technology it makes much more sense for Ford to introduce a 4-cylinder engine that offers more horsepower, more torque, better fuel economy and lower emissions. The improvements aren’t massive, but they are more than enough for the new 2.3L EcoBoost 4-cylinder to serve as the successor for the 3.7L V6.
Of course, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out the fact that the 3.7L V6 is still in the 2015 Ford Mustang line, but with fewer standalone options and no Premium package offered it looks as though Ford might be phasing the V6 out – or at least steering prospective non-GT buyers towards the new EcoBoost model. However, provided that the new 2.3L EcoBoost engine does as well as I expect it to do, I wouldn’t be surprised for one second to see the V6 removed altogether in the near future.

EcoBoost Gives Mustang a Global Advantage Over Camaro
While the United States is the biggest market for the Mustang, the 2015 models will mark the first time that Ford Motor Company has marketed the Mustang on a global level. The engine emissions and fuel economy levels of the 3.7L V6 make it an unattractive option for European buyers, but that market is far more accepting of a turbocharged 4-cylinder engine. Because of that, the 2015 Mustang in Europe and other select non-US markets will not get the base V6 but they will get the EcoBoost in addition to the 5.0L V8.

The fact that the 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost is available outside of the US gives foreign buyers an option that they do not current have with the Chevrolet Camaro. The Camaro has been available overseas for a few years now, but it is only offered with the 6.2L V8. This gives the Camaro a much higher entry level price since there is really no entry level engine. On the other hand, the 2015 Mustang will have the EcoBoost engine that will give European buyers a more efficient and less expensive option than the Mustang GT.

In the world of the American muscle car, the entry level, non-V8 models are a major player considering a take rate of better than 50% and Ford’s rollout of the new 2.3L EcoBoost for the 2015 Mustang will give it an advantage overseas while giving American base model buyers a more exciting and more efficient engine option.
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Original plan is for the 6th gen to be a global car.

lets hope GM Camaro follow the Mustang route for a global car (RHD- etc).
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