02-01-2018, 12:30 PM | #1 |
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2867 Camaro sales for January.
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02-01-2018, 12:42 PM | #2 |
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Let’s hope this isn’t the end of the Camaro, again. Sales haven’t been great at all for the 6th gen.
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02-01-2018, 12:43 PM | #3 |
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Lol GG. Embarrassing numbers.
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02-01-2018, 12:54 PM | #4 |
Drives: 2012 1SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Sep 2010
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Bottom line is this car is too expensive. Sure, it has all the creature comforts, powerful V8 etc. I think where they failed is people with 5th gens just are not selling their cars to upgrade to the 6th gen. My 12 1SS Vert is everything I wanted in a car. But to spend upwards of 20 grand more for the latest 6th gen vert is not worth it to me. Most people who have this type of car at least up here in the rust belt store them 6 months out of the year. That is a lot of cash to tie up over 5 years with less return on your money. Personally, I could get a Vette for the price of a loaded SS convertible and that is where I would go if I was to get a new sports car.
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02-01-2018, 12:56 PM | #5 |
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02-01-2018, 01:23 PM | #6 |
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Well, if you live in the upper half of the country you can't even drive an SS with it's OEM tires off the lot! How can you expect to sell a car that people can't even drive home??
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02-01-2018, 01:30 PM | #7 |
Drives: 2012 1SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Sep 2010
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Exactly. After my P Zero's went to crap at 20,000 miles with not one burnout on them, I switched to all seasons even though I store my car from November 1st to May 1st. Figure if I do happen to get caught in the rain or a freak spring or early fall snow, at least I will not kill myself trying to drive it.
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02-01-2018, 02:12 PM | #8 |
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I think 2018 forward will be more telling regarding sales. The competition has upped the ante, but also their prices. The Mustang is no longer the cheaper alternative. I optioned out a base Mustang GT with similar features as I have now on my 1SS and it was about 3-4 grand more. Why? Because the option choices are not as granular as with the Camaro.
In addition to the higher price, the 6th gen Camaro had also gotten a bad rap regarding visibility, interior and looks, which IMO, was largely undeserved. While there is certainly a 'cockpit' feel to the car, I think the visibility complaint was overblown. I walked into the dealer with preconceived notions about the car only to be pleasantly surprised. On the very first test drive I had no issues with visibility. I was more taken aback by the torque and had to floor it at least once to the dismay of the sales rep. Changing lanes was a breeze. We know looks are subjective, but if you read the mags and forums you would think the car was just hideous. IMO, it's far from it. It had a no-nonsense but at the same time elegant look to it. Don't get me wrong, the 2018 Mustang GT isn't a bad looking car either, but I was a little disappointed when I saw it person, even in the color I wanted - Kona Blue. It just didn't seem as aggressive as the pictures made it out to be. As for the interior, well, you're free to label me a fanboy, but I also had no gripes with it. Even without the leather accents, the look and feel did not come off as cheap. Yeah, it's certainly not a Camry, Accord or Mercedes, but it felt solid! The fabric on the cloth seats also felt well made and durable. I guess only time will tell. The Mustang's interior looked gimmicky and too busy, and I did not care for the look of the center console. The shifter felt great however, but so did the Camaro's. And from I read, the Tremec Tr-6060 in the Camaro is less problematic. The only feature of the Mustang's interior that got my interest was the 12" digital guage cluster. However to get that, you paid an arm and a leg. It just was not worth it. The Camaro was the better value. In the end, admittedly, I was most interested in the power, handling and basic creature comforts I did not have in my previous car. Interior quality usually took a backseat when it came to choosing a car. |
02-01-2018, 02:17 PM | #9 |
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Fix the A8... too many issues.
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02-01-2018, 02:29 PM | #10 |
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How do these numbers compare with late 90's early 2000's? I'm finding conflicting information on the 4th gen. Doesn't seem good either way.
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02-01-2018, 02:35 PM | #11 |
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With the launch of the Mustang facelift this was pretty much expected. But Camaro facelift will be revelead pretty soon, so let's wait how things get mixed up when the lower priced V8 model launches with the facelift
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02-01-2018, 02:36 PM | #12 |
Drives: 2017 Camaro RS Join Date: Dec 2017
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Yikes. Well, combined with all of the crazy purchase incentives near the end of 2017, the writing may not be on the wall, but the author is dipping his quill in ink.
You have to wonder if GM needs an overhaul on the marketing front--it's a better product than the mustang, comparably priced to the mustang, yet it gets massacred in sales. |
02-01-2018, 02:37 PM | #13 |
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A regular hand brake instead of a electronic parking brake would be better.
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