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Bolt-onC6 · 12-19-2014, 07:23 PM

The prices I'm seeing are MSRP less 20%. That essentially becomes window sticker. Where are the dealer discounts? In effect the dealer is charging window sticker.

serviceguy · 12-19-2014, 08:05 PM

That's an awesome car and price ! ......don't pass this deal up !

Raven87 · 12-19-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolt-onC6

The prices I'm seeing are MSRP less 20%. That essentially becomes window sticker. Where are the dealer discounts? In effect the dealer is charging window sticker.

How do you figure that 20% off MSRP which IS the window sticker, is 'the window sticker?

My car listed for $59565 and that was the amount on the sticker. I PAID a little less than $48000 for it.

That is a hell of a deal and far less than window sticker. 20% off to be exact.

Good luck in your search.

Bolt-onC6 · 12-19-2014, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven87

How do you figure that 20% off MSRP which IS the window sticker, is 'the window sticker?

My car listed for $59565 and that was the amount on the sticker. I PAID a little less than $48000 for it.

That is a hell of a deal and far less than window sticker. 20% off to be exact.

Good luck in your search.

Sure it's an awesome price. Not disputing that. But that 20% is a GM discount. The window sticker then in effect becomes 20% less via GM. I still say where is the dealer discount.

Raven87 · 12-19-2014, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolt-onC6

Sure it's an awesome price. Not disputing that. But that 20% is a GM discount. The window sticker then in effect becomes 20% less via GM. I still say where is the dealer discount.

With this program, I've not seen any cars sold yet with addition discounts and have heard that the dealer is subsidizing part of the 20% but that is not verified.

Regardless, 20% off MSRP for this car is a great deal. If you think you can bleed the dealer even more than go for it. I know that you can not get any other factory incentives than the 20% off including Supplier, etc.

Keep us posted if you an get more off than the 20%.

Emvici · 12-19-2014, 09:05 PM

They advertise leather wrapped interior, but instead they give you the cheapest plastic e-brake. no factory console or footwell lighting. Navigation system is terrible, Several factory issues with Supercharger. The factory tune on the car is way off, runs extremely pig rich. You will go through your first set of tires by 10k -15k. Wish they designed the trunk "opening" so you could actually get something inside it. other than those things the car is great.

WSSICK · 12-19-2014, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Camero5

You must be driving a 2LT with ZL1 badging ..... LMAO

Are you all stock? That's amazing MPG. I am 10-12 in the city and 16-18 Mixed, 20+ all highway.

Only an APEX catch can and a Roto-Fab CAI. I set the cruise control at 75 mph and enjoy the ride.

Muscle Car Lover · 12-19-2014, 09:17 PM

Not being a dick but why does anyone need footwell lighting? What are you doing down there?

I am an old school type, only "con" on a ZL-1 is that is supercharged. I don't prefer blown motors.

vatechguy3 · 12-19-2014, 09:46 PM

Ummmmm, the fact the i paid invoice for my 2014 and didnt get a 2015 with the 20% discount!!

Tony

KaBoom1701 · 12-19-2014, 09:50 PM

Con: Having to buy rear tires more due to the 580hp?

Sven59 · 12-19-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Emvici

They advertise leather wrapped interior, but instead they give you the cheapest plastic e-brake. no factory console or footwell lighting. Navigation system is terrible, Several factory issues with Supercharger. The factory tune on the car is way off, runs extremely pig rich. You will go through your first set of tires by 10k -15k. Wish they designed the trunk "opening" so you could actually get something inside it. other than those things the car is great.

I thought this was a high performance car not a Lexus. I paid for performance not fru fru crap.

Via lightning from a large Hammer.

2013 ZL1 #7860 · 12-19-2014, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Emvici

They advertise leather wrapped interior, but instead they give you the cheapest plastic e-brake. no factory console or footwell lighting. Navigation system is terrible, Several factory issues with Supercharger. The factory tune on the car is way off, runs extremely pig rich. You will go through your first set of tires by 10k -15k. Wish they designed the trunk "opening" so you could actually get something inside it. other than those things the car is great.

A Camaro is still a budget friendly performance car.
Costs have to be cut somewhere and they always choose the interior.
The price you pay for the performance is a complete bargain!

Factory issue with the supercharger (that is hardly a issue and isn't new to roots blowers at all) and they fixed it for free...

The stock tune runs rich to keep the motor safe.
You do not want the car to run lean on boost...

Tires on almost every OEM suck.
They are easily fixed when needed.
15k miles is pretty good IMO...

What are you putting the trunk that the opening needs to be bigger?
Flip the rear seat down for larger access or don't use your ZL1 to haul lumber...

Nothing is perfect, nothing...

db59 · 12-19-2014, 10:30 PM

I don't think ZL1's are eligible, Chevy's website says "Camaro SS". When I search inventory in my area only the Camaro's eligible for the discount show the little discount tag on them and they're all 2014's. That's a really deep discount on a ZL1 in my area!

2012-1822 · 12-19-2014, 11:10 PM

None. I have a 2012 so no Nav, doesn't matter to me. But after 35,XXX miles I have zero regrets or complaints about the car. I love it as much as I did 2 and a half years ago when I bought it.

It still makes me feel 16 again every time I get in it.

12-19-2014, 09:17 PM	#50
Muscle Car Lover Drives: 2014 2SS M6 "CHRISTINE" Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Boston Metro North Posts: 2,916 View My Garage	Not being a dick but why does anyone need footwell lighting? What are you doing down there? I am an old school type, only "con" on a ZL-1 is that is supercharged. I don't prefer blown motors. __________________ "But, House Mormont remembers. The North remembers! We know no King but the King of the North whose name is Stark. I don't care if he's a bastard. Ned Stark's blood runs through his veins. He's my king–from this day until his last day." Mods: ARH headers and hi flow cats, VMAX ported throttle body, CAI air intake, Slowhawk Performance tuning

12-19-2014, 09:46 PM	#51
vatechguy3 Drives: 2014 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 493	Ummmmm, the fact the i paid invoice for my 2014 and didnt get a 2015 with the 20% discount!! Tony __________________ 2014 ZL1 M6 Bone stock, for now! 2001 Z28 M6 !cags, !air, FTP 85mm Lid, Z06 85mm MAF, P&P TB !4x4, Strano Springs, Strano Sways, Koni 4/4s, Watts Link ARH LTs, ARH catted Y, SLP catback with Dual/Dual Muffler, SLP CME and Valance OE Wheels Machined Face C5 DDs, 18x10.5s, with 295/35-18s on all 4 corners! 352rwhp and 366rwtq

12-19-2014, 09:50 PM	#52
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Con: Having to buy rear tires more due to the 580hp? __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

12-19-2014, 11:10 PM	#56
2012-1822 Drives: Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: City of Champions, Alabama Posts: 3,698	None. I have a 2012 so no Nav, doesn't matter to me. But after 35,XXX miles I have zero regrets or complaints about the car. I love it as much as I did 2 and a half years ago when I bought it. It still makes me feel 16 again every time I get in it. __________________ Check out Alabama Camaros, for Camaro enthusiasts all around Alabama https://www.facebook.com/groups/1739...group_activity

12-19-2014, 07:23 PM	#43
Bolt-onC6 Drives: 2017 Corvette Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 258	The prices I'm seeing are MSRP less 20%. That essentially becomes window sticker. Where are the dealer discounts? In effect the dealer is charging window sticker.

12-19-2014, 08:05 PM	#44
serviceguy Drives: 2014 Z/28 # 89, 69 Camaro, 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Flint MI Posts: 669	That's an awesome car and price ! ......don't pass this deal up !

12-19-2014, 09:05 PM	#48
Emvici Drives: 2014 ZL1 White Convertible Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: St Pete Fl Posts: 682	They advertise leather wrapped interior, but instead they give you the cheapest plastic e-brake. no factory console or footwell lighting. Navigation system is terrible, Several factory issues with Supercharger. The factory tune on the car is way off, runs extremely pig rich. You will go through your first set of tires by 10k -15k. Wish they designed the trunk "opening" so you could actually get something inside it. other than those things the car is great.

12-19-2014, 10:30 PM	#55
db59 Drives: 15 ZL1, 61 Vette, 32 Ford Roadster Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Washington Posts: 24	I don't think ZL1's are eligible, Chevy's website says "Camaro SS". When I search inventory in my area only the Camaro's eligible for the discount show the little discount tag on them and they're all 2014's. That's a really deep discount on a ZL1 in my area!