Homepage Garage Wiki Register Members List Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
#Camaro6
Go Back   CAMARO6 > CAMARO6.com General Forums > 6th gen Camaro vs...


Gen5DIY


Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-18-2017, 08:05 PM   #1
NB2017ZL1

 
NB2017ZL1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 ZL1 10 Speed Hyper Blue
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: NB
Posts: 1,308
New 2018 Shelby GT 500 7.0 L vs ZL1

Wonder when these wars will get cut.

Here's the latest rumoured info on the new Shelby GT500

http://speedtwitch.com/
__________________
2017 ZL1 & NISSAN GTR & RF
NB2017ZL1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 08:14 PM   #2
glenB
 
Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 554
Not getting in that line.

1. Nascar doesn't have 1000 hp

2. Not gonna get 1000 NA and pass emissions

3. Just because Ford is building a 7.0 for the SuperDuty, I don't see that in the GT 500 which has been forced induction since it's Re irth.
glenB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 09:45 PM   #3
Can'tHave2MuchHP
God - Family - Country
 
Can'tHave2MuchHP's Avatar
 
Drives: ZL1, Z06, Duramax, and More
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,873
Yeah, right...

NASCARs top of the line runners, Monster Energy Cup (Formerly Sprint Cup, Nextel etc.), makes around 850 and I quote "Engines are optimized to run all out for no more than 1000 miles". Such an engine would absolutely be GOD AWFUL and more than likely untstreetable, even decammed.

If it's NA, prepare for no more than 600 BHP stock.
Can'tHave2MuchHP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 10:11 PM   #4
SoCal Racer
 
Drives: C4,C6 Z06,Silverado,'17 Red Hot ZL1
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 433
Possible 7.0L...wow....but the real question I have is that no matter what the final stage and stats of the new GT500...will I actually be able to get one....and if so, will I be able to actually get one for MSRP (LOL)
SoCal Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 10:28 PM   #5
KenB925
 
Drives: Raptor
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 122
i like it, na engines need to survive
KenB925 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 11:04 PM   #6
SoCal Racer
 
Drives: C4,C6 Z06,Silverado,'17 Red Hot ZL1
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 433
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenB925 View Post
i like it, na engines need to survive
I agree NA is something special
SoCal Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 11:25 PM   #7
mlee
www.CamaroFest.org
 
mlee's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 A10 ZL1
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 31,876
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal Racer View Post
Possible 7.0L...wow....but the real question I have is that no matter what the final stage and stats of the new GT500...will I actually be able to get one....and if so, will I be able to actually get one for MSRP (LOL)
That's the big issue... If I was a Ford guy this would drive me nuts.

This thing looks pretty bad ass though. I like it.

Here's another one... supercharged GT350..
http://www.motortrend.com/news/spied...ercharged-v-8/

__________________
.
mlee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 12:09 AM   #8
SoCal Racer
 
Drives: C4,C6 Z06,Silverado,'17 Red Hot ZL1
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 433
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlee View Post
That's the big issue... If I was a Ford guy this would drive me nuts.

This thing looks pretty bad ass though. I like it.

Here's another one... supercharged GT350..
http://www.motortrend.com/news/spied...ercharged-v-8/

Yes, I could not get the GT350R and any reasonable price (the indicated MSRP was a complete joke) and the standard GT350 had significant mark ups as well. I can't imagine what the GT500 is going to be, but I know we can just ignore the MSRP...that is not the real price.

I have a 7.0L Vette, it's great. Always cool to see another 7.0L car, but it would be nice to be actually able to get our hands on one...
SoCal Racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 03:15 AM   #9
Zeke.Malvo

 
Zeke.Malvo's Avatar
 
Drives: 1969 Mustang MaCh1
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: SJ
Posts: 786
Won't happen.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk
__________________
1969 MaCh 1 - CHP 427w 10.8 comp - 3140 lbs. - 460 rwhp / 490 rwtq
TFS 205cc 11R heads || Victor Jr. intake || 950 Holley HP carb || 110* 236/240 .573/.594 hyd roller cam || 1 3/4" ceramic coated headers || 3" exhaust, x-pipe || 14" 6 piston front and 13" 4 piston rear Wilwoods brakes || T56 Magnum || SPEC 2+ hydraulic clutch || 9" Detroit Locker || 3.70 gears || MSD 6AL-2 || PST Aluminum DS || many other details.
Zeke.Malvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 07:41 AM   #10
BlaqWhole


 
BlaqWhole's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10
Join Date: May 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 3,706
I think Ford was originally gonna bring out the GT500 earlier but then got word of the Demon and decided to put it off. I think they wanted to wait and see what they were up against. I doubt they'll be going NA. It would be extremely difficult and very very expensive to make a NA engine that can compete with even the ZL1, Z06, 13-14 GT500, etc while retaining street driveability, and emmissions standards. I don't think they'll directly try to take on the Demon. But I do think they'll make an engine in the mid 600 HP or higher range. And in order to do that they're gonna need forced induction. I think they'll utilize tech off the current GT, the GT350, and other tech along with a PD blower to get the performance they need to remain competitive.
__________________
2017 Camaro ZL-1 A10 - Roto-Fab cai - Katech ported TB - MBRP Race catback - VTC!!

2017 Challenger Hellcat M6 - Legmaker CAI - MM ported TB - Sprint Booster!!

Saving the world...1 hp at a time!!
BlaqWhole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 07:56 AM   #11
Redlinez
Shifts under load
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1SS, 6M
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Posts: 273
Ford is already going away from DOHC V8's and returning to pushrod engines. Don't say never..... Over MSRP for anything is nuts, you can have those GT350's. Great car, but not better than a ZL1 1LE for the same money. I just traded a 15 GT performance pack car for my 1SS and what a better car in every way except storage.
__________________
17 Camaro SS-1SS 6m white
Redlinez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 08:55 AM   #12
Fraxum


 
Fraxum's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 SS M6
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Joisey
Posts: 5,571
Send a message via AIM to Fraxum
If Ford builds a 600 HP NA GT 500 that will be my new dream car. Growing up in car era I did the number 427 was magic both from Ford and Chevy.

Ford FE 427 and the L88:

Superchargers add weight and are prone to heat soak.
__________________
M6, Pray Ported TB and MSD, E85, LTs, cats, Rotofab Dry, BMR Trailing Arms
Fraxum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 09:59 AM   #13
KenB925
 
Drives: Raptor
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 122
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redlinez View Post
Ford is already going away from DOHC V8's and returning to pushrod engines.

What pushrod engine/vehicle slipped past me?
KenB925 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 10:10 AM   #14
cleoent
 
cleoent's Avatar
 
Drives: 16' Camaro E-Force SS
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Morgan Hill, Ca
Posts: 708
I doubt this is true. Ford would have put this engine in its new gt I'd think, if it were real.
__________________
Leo
2016 e-Force 2SS
Instagram @cleoent
cleoent is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Post Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.