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Old 08-09-2016, 09:59 PM   #687
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I don't know why we are still talking about this. Hc walks z06 with the same motor, wider tires, and less weight. What makes anyone think the camaro will beat it in a straight line? Road course is a different story and everyone already knows the Hc doesn't turn. So what is the conversation here?

Internet bench racing. And yes, obviously any race can turn into a driver's race.
Heres two different zo6 running 10.4 stock with stock tires. A stock hellcat has never came close to that time bone stock. Period.





A hellcat is good for high tens with a DR totally stock in good conditons. On stock tires its pretty hard to run 10s. Not even close to a zo6. Higher speed roll races can get interesting because of the downforce that kills the car at 120+.

The zl1 will beat the hc 99 times out of 100 on stock tires. Both on a DR it will be close. Id give the edge to the zl1. The zl1 costs the same...and has world class handling to boot.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:59 PM   #688
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I don't know why we are still talking about this. Hc walks z06 with the same motor, wider tires, and less weight. What makes anyone think the camaro will beat it in a straight line? Road course is a different story and everyone already knows the Hc doesn't turn. So what is the conversation here?

Internet bench racing. And yes, obviously any race can turn into a driver's race.


Walks the Z06?? Not in any of the races I have seen.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:06 PM   #689
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Walks the Z06?? Not in any of the races I have seen.
It has happened a few times in random youtube videos from a roll with supposedly stock cars.

One vid I seen was a manual z06 with mediocre driving. Vids ive seen auto vs auto the zo6 won handily.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:11 PM   #690
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It has happened a few times in random youtube videos from a roll with supposedly stock cars.

One vid I seen was a manual z06 with mediocre driving. Vids ive seen auto vs auto the zo6 won handily.


Yup. Equal drivers in stock cars........the z06 wins hands down. I didn't even think that was still debatable anymore lol
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:32 PM   #691
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Yup. Equal drivers in stock cars........the z06 wins hands down. I didn't even think that was still debatable anymore lol
To the dodge crowd every car they make is underrated and power to weight means nothing.

707hp 4500lbs beats 650hp 3500lbs all day didn't you get the memo?


Another vid of two confirmed stock cars (they are friends)



z06 is consistently a half second plus faster with better trap speed. The zl1 should compare nicely or slightly better to the hc in the 1/4
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:36 PM   #692
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To the dodge crowd every car they make is underrated and power to weight means nothing.

707hp 4500lbs beats 650hp 3500lbs all day didn't you get the memo?


Another vid of two confirmed stock cars (they are friends)



z06 is consistently a half second plus faster with better trap speed. The zl1 should compare nicely or slightly better to the hc in the 1/4
ohhh stop....don't you know a lie told over and over becomes truth?
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:34 PM   #693
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I don't know why we are still talking about this. Hc walks z06 with the same motor, wider tires, and less weight. What makes anyone think the camaro will beat it in a straight line? Road course is a different story and everyone already knows the Hc doesn't turn. So what is the conversation here?

Internet bench racing. And yes, obviously any race can turn into a driver's race.
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Old 08-10-2016, 08:03 AM   #694
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I don't know why we are still talking about this. Hc walks z06 with the same motor, wider tires, and less weight. What makes anyone think the camaro will beat it in a straight line? Road course is a different story and everyone already knows the Hc doesn't turn. So what is the conversation here?

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Um, no. Not if the drivers are of equal skill - the C7Z will leave the big Cat behind easily. Some of those races were A8 Hellcats racing a C7Z with a manual driven by someone who couldn't launch nor shift well.

Don't equate the occasional YouTube vid of a Hellcat 'walking' a C7Z as the way it is in the real world with equally skilled drivers. From a roll or from a dig, the Z06 will win every time IF the Z06 driver knows how to drive his car.

The Hellcat is a sick, wicked car in the hands of a good driver. But even then, it will not beat a C7Z IF the C7Z driver is equally good. Not happening.

And it will be about the same results for the new ZL1 IF the ZL1 driver knows how to drive his car.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:32 AM   #695
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I guess he doesn't want to talk anymore.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:43 AM   #696
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I guess he doesn't want to talk anymore.
Yep looks that way
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:55 AM   #697
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Yep looks that way
Maybe he has a bridge to guard.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:04 AM   #698
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The Hellcat is a great car, but the owners telling themselves they are faster than C7z06's is pretty funny.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:05 AM   #699
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I stand corrected. Hadn't followed the a8 z06 times recently. I was just remembering back to when the z06 first hit the streets and was getting embarrassed.

Btw, not a hc owner or fanboy at all. GM all the way.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:43 AM   #700
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The mere fact that a hellcat can even stay close woth such a large weight disadvantage is extremely impressive.
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