12-01-2023, 04:02 PM | #29 |
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I can see what you mean about the base model but I specifically said SS in my original post as I wouldn’t shop for anything less. Still think the base 16-18 looks a lot like the 14/15 Camaro, which is still a good looking car. Front fascia and headlights, while different are very similar. The taillights which I like clear/smoked look like an evolution of the 14/15 tail lights (which I thought were hideous) Below is the car and driver article that echos my sentiment about the styling not changing.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-drive-review/
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12-01-2023, 05:28 PM | #30 |
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2019+ Front - I like the grills, aluminum insert, headlights and hood bulge better. The side vents not so much 2016+ Front - I like the fog lights and the middle bumper creases better. the chrome trim is not bad either 2019+ Rear - The tail lights are pretty awesome and a big reason I bought a 23 |
12-01-2023, 05:29 PM | #31 |
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To each as his own. I like the taillights of the 2019 and on.
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12-01-2023, 06:10 PM | #32 | |
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Now the base model 19 and up look pretty unique and I don't care for them at all.
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12-01-2023, 06:28 PM | #33 |
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If I could have my ideal SS 1LE exterior it would be:
Tail:19+, Hood/vent:19+ Front bumper facia: 16-18 (I just love those diagonals coming down from the bumper) Front spoiler:20+ I wonder how much bodywork would be required to make that combo work for the front. |
12-01-2023, 06:54 PM | #34 | |
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As to the Camaro, my conscious and many others' subconscious problem with the midcycle refresh is that the changes are neither here nor there. If the 2016-2018 look was deemed too retro to sell well enough, which is plausible if we look at sales numbers, one needs to redesign the entire body for consistency, otherwise you create esthetic discomfort that never goes away due to the tension between the original and the new elements that stem from a different style, yet got forced together. (To add insult to injury, anyone can tell that they were going after cheap, low hanging Honda and Dodge fruit with the front bumpers and didn't try to come up with something original.) Some people simply don't see or care about this visual discrepancy, others (like me) are very sensitive to it and will never compromise to the degree required to tolerate the 2019 front/rear look. Again, I get what GM were trying to do, but they half-assed the job and it shows. By the way, I'm not hopelessly devoted to the more angular oldschool look; for example, I love McLaren's body designs, they are sleek, modern---and, best of all, 100% consistent.
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12-01-2023, 07:14 PM | #35 |
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TRUE! I love the look of my 2021!
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12-02-2023, 06:27 AM | #38 | |
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12-02-2023, 09:40 AM | #41 |
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Amen. To each his own. Obviously there are two factions here. The ones that like the 2016-18s and the ones that prefer the refreshed look. As I said previously the divide seems mostly along what people have. Which is to he expected.
I personally couldn't care less why GM made the changes. The changes were made. It happens. I'm like you I definitely prefer the refreshed taillights.
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