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Old 02-17-2024, 10:08 PM   #15
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Low mile, mint 6mt ZLEs will be worth more than MSRP but it will take a few yrs.. buy and hold if you can.
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Old 02-18-2024, 07:43 AM   #16
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2017 was the first year for the 6th Gen ZL1 and was a short manufacture run (November 2016-Early May 2017). It was the 50th Anniversary year for the Camaro with special "Fifty" annotation to the ZL1 (steering wheel badge as well). A total of 3049 were made and 50 of those were test mules. Only 2999 were sold to public. If you have a 2017, there will be a market in the future based on this background for a Camaro enthusiast. They also have the short run rectangular tail lights that some find more desirable. I'll keep mine indefinitely and enjoy it as much as possible. I have no intentions of selling. Having owned Camaro's since the 70's (starting with a Gen 1), there's never been a time in my lifetime where there wasn't a fan base for these cars.
Production of the 6th gen ZL1 started in October of 2016, not November. I know this because the build date of my ZL1 is October 20, 2016.

I’m pretty confident my car was built during the very first week of production. Only ZL1s with the 6 spd manual transmission were built during the initial production run. The A10s and convertibles started production in February of 2017.

Chevy unveiled the 2018 ZL1 1LE in February of 2017 during Speed Week at Daytona.

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/b...amaro-zl1-1le/

As you can imagine, folks who had ZL1 orders waiting on production when none too happy that Chevy introduced a new package less than five months into production of the 6th gen ZL1.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:01 AM   #17
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Production of the 6th gen ZL1 started in October of 2016, not November. I know this because the build date of my ZL1 is October 20, 2016.

I’m pretty confident my car was built during the very first week of production. Only ZL1s with the 6 spd manual transmission were built during the initial production run. The A10s and convertibles started production in February of 2017.

Chevy unveiled the 2018 ZL1 1LE in February of 2017 during Speed Week at Daytona.

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/b...amaro-zl1-1le/

As you can imagine, folks who had ZL1 orders waiting on production when none too happy that Chevy introduced a new package less than five months into production of the 6th gen ZL1.
What are the last 6 digits of your VIN? That would be a good indication of how early in production your car was built.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:04 AM   #18
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Production of the Z/28 was limited, so only 1,801 were ever built over the course of two model years (509 cars in 2014 and 1,292 in 2015). Big difference compared to the 6th Gen 1LE production over multiple years, plus there were other things that made the Z28 collectible, most notably the 427ci LS7 which was not shared in other Camaro models and the carbon ceramic brakes. This is the same reason why the C6 Z06 seems to hold his value really well, that 427 is unique and special.
I completely agree. It’s the engine and production numbers that have the greatest impact on long-term valuation.

A car with suspension and aero upgrades but still shares the same engine that’s in other GM models (Corvette, Cadillac, and Camaro) is not going to see the same level of value as a car that has an engine unique to itself.

If I were looking at a modern-day GM car as a long-term investment, It would be a C6 or C7 ZR1.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:39 AM   #19
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Production of the 6th gen ZL1 started in October of 2016, not November. I know this because the build date of my ZL1 is October 20, 2016.

I’m pretty confident my car was built during the very first week of production. Only ZL1s with the 6 spd manual transmission were built during the initial production run. The A10s and convertibles started production in February of 2017.

Chevy unveiled the 2018 ZL1 1LE in February of 2017 during Speed Week at Daytona.

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/b...amaro-zl1-1le/

As you can imagine, folks who had ZL1 orders waiting on production when none too happy that Chevy introduced a new package less than five months into production of the 6th gen ZL1.

What I was trying to get across was that this was an odd production run. It's somewhat analogous to the bridge between the 1st and 2nd Gen that impacted production due to a strike. I stand corrected for October 20, I am 11 days off, It's still late October. Isn't Oct 20, 2017 to May 2018 a shorter production run? Doesn't new year production usually start in July or August? That was approximately 7 months of production.

Here is some infor from GM Heritage:Contacted GM Heritage (Ms. Adelson/kathleen.adelson@gm.com) here is what she sent.
2017 Chevrolet Camaro

ZL1
Coupe/Conv
Total Production
3048


Engine

LT4 ENG-GAS 8 CYL 6.2L
3048


Transmission

MJK TRANS-MAN 6 SPD
1234


Interior Trim

H0W SUEDE JET BLACK
3048


Exterior Color

GD1 HYPER BLUE
409

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Old 02-18-2024, 08:44 AM   #20
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I completely agree. It’s the engine and production numbers that have the greatest impact on long-term valuation.

A car with suspension and aero upgrades but still shares the same engine that’s in other GM models (Corvette, Cadillac, and Camaro) is not going to see the same level of value as a car that has an engine unique to itself.

If I were looking at a modern-day GM car as a long-term investment, It would be a C6 or C7 ZR1.
Or a C8 with the NA V8
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Old 02-18-2024, 10:27 AM   #21
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Or a C8 with the NA V8
and flat-plane crank.
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Old 02-18-2024, 10:32 AM   #22
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What are the last 6 digits of your VIN? That would be a good indication of how early in production your car was built.
155030

I didn't think they singled out ZL1 production. I thought they were just part of the total Camaro production.
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Old 02-18-2024, 11:39 AM   #23
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155030

I didn't think they singled out ZL1 production. I thought they were just part of the total Camaro production.
You are correct, the VIN’s are all jumbled together. I was thinking all Camaro production started that year in October, not just ZL1’s, so the VIN won’t tell us how many ZL1’s were built before yours.
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Old 02-18-2024, 11:56 AM   #24
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Just curious with the car market the way it is & ICE cars slowly dying, EVs being the new go-to and the z06/vette looking like it's going to be the only ICE sports car GM is choosing to go with for the future how something "special" like a ZL1 1LE will be looked at in say 5 years from now.

Curious what everyone thinks.
If you put it in storage and take it out fifty years from now, it will have appreciated more than those from the sixties.
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Old 02-18-2024, 12:04 PM   #25
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and flat-plane crank.
Agreed, the C8 Z06 with LT6 will be collectable one day perhaps depending on how many they make will ultimately determine how much it goes up in value but if we're truly at the end of high power NA engines, then the LT6 has a good chance of becoming collectable one day. The base C8 Stingray, not so much.
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Old 02-18-2024, 12:30 PM   #26
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Just curious with the car market the way it is & ICE cars slowly dying, EVs being the new go-to and the z06/vette looking like it's going to be the only ICE sports car GM is choosing to go with for the future how something "special" like a ZL1 1LE will be looked at in say 5 years from now.

Curious what everyone thinks.
The answer to your question IMHO, is that yes there is a very good chance it will do well in the future. The exact timing of that is difficult to predict.
Look no further than the Viper ACR as a gauge. Same engine as base Viper, but track ready from the Factory. Current values over double that of a base Viper.
Collectors are ultimately fickle and you really can’t guarantee anything, but the current Garage 56 prices prove that collectors are eyeing these cars now. The opinions of longtime Camaro owners clearly don’t drive the collector car market.
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Old 02-18-2024, 02:01 PM   #27
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I think any well taken care of 6 gen ZL1-1LE will appreciate in value as time goes on. In fact, I believe a ZL1-1LE will appreciate in value more than any other normal production car of its era.
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Old 02-18-2024, 02:50 PM   #28
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I think any well taken care of 6 gen ZL1-1LE will appreciate in value as time goes on. In fact, I believe a ZL1-1LE will appreciate in value more than any other normal production car of its era.
Agree to disagree there.
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