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Mr. Nasty · 05-27-2013, 05:45 PM

What ice are you using tap water ice are dry ice? Going to be adding a ice box soon i can get dry ice would it be better and last longer???

Is there a reason not to use dry ice?

The Stig · 05-27-2013, 05:55 PM

Dry ice is made of frozen CO2, it wouldn't really help with cooling or at least I don't think it would.

FrankT · 05-27-2013, 06:29 PM

I don't know why you couldn't, but I would think having to vent the box would be the main one. When it changes states from solid to gas I would think it would pressurize the box. I would also think you would still use a water bath with the dry ice in it. Any physicists on here?

Mchlgrrsn · 05-27-2013, 06:30 PM

The Stig · 05-27-2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankT

I don't know why you couldn't, but I would think having to vent the box would be the main one. When it changes states from solid to gas I would think it would pressurize the box. I would also think you would still use a water bath with the dry ice in it. Any physicists on here?

The pressure is what would be the issue. Also that once the dry ice turns to gas it doesn't really have any cooling effects. Where as when regular ice melts the water still cools (due to water having an extremely high specific heat).

FrankT · 05-27-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stig

The pressure is what would be the issue. Also that once the dry ice turns to gas it doesn't really have any cooling effects. Where as when regular ice melts the water still cools (due to water having an extremely high specific heat).

True. You might get greater initial cooling, but when the dry ice is gone, it's gone. Plus you would lose volume in the ice box as the dry ice evaporated.

The Stig · 05-27-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankT

True. You might get greater initial cooling, but when the dry ice is gone, it's gone. Plus you would lose volume in the ice box as the dry ice evaporated.

Well not necessarily. Remember PV=nRT. So if volume (because its a closed container) and amount of dry ice stays the same. As the pressure increases so would the temperature - so once the dry ice melts it'd actually start warming the coolant.

Mchlgrrsn · 05-27-2013, 06:54 PM

Where is that physicist when we need one. Lol

Mr. Nasty · 05-27-2013, 07:23 PM

Wow sound like the dry ice is a no. Even for one pass at the time. And where is the physicist??? Its good for cold beer as long as you have the gloves.

swiftkart · 05-27-2013, 07:29 PM

Not sure how you plan on using the dry ice, but it's -109 deg and water freezes at 32 deg so that could case a problem if you don't think it through, but if you can figure out how to use it with a pressure vent on the tank like radiator cap or blow off valve of some sort, it would be colder than anything else within reason.

mikepage0007 · 05-28-2013, 07:09 AM

this was discussed long ago, dry ice is to unstable and will not work,,,supercharged ss has a ice box, he might give you some tips on what he founds works for him..

Mchlgrrsn · 05-28-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mikepage0007

this was discussed long ago, dry ice is to unstable and will not work,,,supercharged ss has a ice box, he might give you some tips on what he founds works for him..

Thank you. No dry ice. Superchargedss says put the ice in 5 mins before race time, keep it in support vehicle as you can't dump water out there. Lol I asked him a few days ago.

SC2150 · 05-28-2013, 08:49 AM

RX Superchiller and never hassle with any mess again....and no ice can cool as low and as efficient. Ice also adds a ton of weight, RX chiller adds app 19# and that's it.

We used to mess with ice years back, but the weight (every 100# is a tenth in the 1/4 mile) and then draining and refilling and the cost to keep buying ice every time.

H-E · 05-28-2013, 09:45 AM

Dry ice does work and works well enuff to freeze the water,we add alchol to keep it from freezing,it is a hassle.When using ice you need to make your own with distilled water,a bag of ice has harmfull deposits that will gunk up your intercooler and build heat when the ice is gone. The best way to go is a seperate compartment to hold the ice and kool your super charger water .I have a few things drawn up for us but i havnt had the time to get them built.

05-27-2013, 05:45 PM	#1
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	Intercooler/Ice box What ice are you using tap water ice are dry ice? Going to be adding a ice box soon i can get dry ice would it be better and last longer??? Is there a reason not to use dry ice? __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

05-27-2013, 05:55 PM	#2
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	Dry ice is made of frozen CO2, it wouldn't really help with cooling or at least I don't think it would. __________________

05-27-2013, 06:29 PM	#3
FrankT 400HP used to be enough.. Drives: 2010 2SS rs manual Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central NC Posts: 772	I don't know why you couldn't, but I would think having to vent the box would be the main one. When it changes states from solid to gas I would think it would pressurize the box. I would also think you would still use a water bath with the dry ice in it. Any physicists on here? __________________ Build thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47925

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05-27-2013, 07:23 PM	#9
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	Wow sound like the dry ice is a no. Even for one pass at the time. And where is the physicist??? Its good for cold beer as long as you have the gloves. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

05-27-2013, 07:29 PM	#10
swiftkart Drives: 2010 SS/RS LS3 M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 693	Not sure how you plan on using the dry ice, but it's -109 deg and water freezes at 32 deg so that could case a problem if you don't think it through, but if you can figure out how to use it with a pressure vent on the tank like radiator cap or blow off valve of some sort, it would be colder than anything else within reason.

05-28-2013, 07:09 AM	#11
mikepage0007 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: port st lucie ,florida Posts: 4,273	this was discussed long ago, dry ice is to unstable and will not work,,,supercharged ss has a ice box, he might give you some tips on what he founds works for him.. __________________

05-28-2013, 09:45 AM	#14
H-E Account Suspended Drives: 2010 zr1 Camaro 2011 vert Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: everywhere Posts: 1,121	Dry ice does work and works well enuff to freeze the water,we add alchol to keep it from freezing,it is a hassle.When using ice you need to make your own with distilled water,a bag of ice has harmfull deposits that will gunk up your intercooler and build heat when the ice is gone. The best way to go is a seperate compartment to hold the ice and kool your super charger water .I have a few things drawn up for us but i havnt had the time to get them built.