Chuck Nash Chevrolet in San Marcos, Texas blew my motor up! *Update on Pg. 17* - Page 27 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

2014v6 · 06-18-2013, 07:30 PM

its called damage controll and saving face guys.. i would bet GM is the one who said this is whats going to happen and you are going to do it... GM dont want the dealerships to look bad at all... They are the front line customer support service and sales for a big corporation...

willhe64 · 06-18-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 2014v6

its called damage controll and saving face guys..

We know what it is called. They wouldn't have to do it if they did the right thing in the first place. Now they are out a new motor and have a bad rep.

KeepItShut · 06-18-2013, 08:07 PM

Awesome news, good for you Nutro

thahemp · 06-18-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by willhe64

We know what it is called. They wouldn't have to do it if they did the right thing in the first place. Now they are out a new motor and have a bad rep.

Word. I was busy mowing... That's exactly what ran through my head.

MrandMrsNinja · 06-18-2013, 09:04 PM

Glad things got sorted out.

Cody6.2 · 06-19-2013, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 1LEMayhem

A motor that dyno's towards the higher end of the power spectrum.

Some stock LS3's dyno'd at over 400 hp to the wheels.

It's easy to make any LS3 dyno 400whp, just use 3rd gear.

OmniCamaro · 06-19-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by willhe64

Good outcome. But it still sucks that Nutro had to kick and scream and if he hadn't got pics and made this public, Nash would have screwed him because they are not at all interested in making this right. Only when caught. They are only interested in covering up their mistake with a little financial burden to themselves as possible.

willhe64 · 06-19-2013, 12:48 PM

Let me add, as a race engine builder of 25 years. There is no way, NO WAY I would pop a head off, see that kind of damage and replace the valves and let it go. A total tear down and inspection of every piston, rod, valve, bearing, valve guide, oil pump etc. Piston to valve contact is never light damage. They get whacked but good. Common thing is to have the piston skirts bent from the hit. The valve hits the piston off center and the piston skews in the bore. You can't see that unless you pull the piston and measure the skirt diameter.

My buddy who owns a shop will do a good visual, and if it all looks good then tell the customer that a valve job/replacement will fix it up but there is no guarantee how long it may last, that the proper way is to do a rebuild, then leave it up to them to decide. This is on older high mile low performance 4 bangers and such. And this is not because of his mistake. And this is not on a brand new warranty high performance car.

DemonZL1 · 06-19-2013, 12:58 PM

Nice Job Nutro. Clearly you made good choices on handling this. Where i felt you were immature, you were doing what was necessary to get the outcome you wanted. I apologize for that and congrats on the new engine.

rich3fan · 06-19-2013, 01:11 PM

^^^ Very cool dude.

litle88 · 06-19-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by willhe64

Let me add, as a race engine builder of 25 years. There is no way, NO WAY I would pop a head off, see that kind of damage and replace the valves and let it go. A total tear down and inspection of every piston, rod, valve, bearing, valve guide, oil pump etc. Piston to valve contact is never light damage. They get whacked but good. Common thing is to have the piston skirts bent from the hit. The valve hits the piston off center and the piston skews in the bore. You can't see that unless you pull the piston and measure the skirt diameter.

My buddy who owns a shop will do a good visual, and if it all looks good then tell the customer that a valve job/replacement will fix it up but there is no guarantee how long it may last, that the proper way is to do a rebuild, then leave it up to them to decide. This is on older high mile low performance 4 bangers and such. And this is not because of his mistake. And this is not on a brand new warranty high performance car.

I agree with you 100% sir.

litle88 · 06-19-2013, 04:45 PM

So how it going so far nutro!!
I'm glad you went back to take those pics bud!!!
Can't argue with a pic cause it tells ALOT!

Nutro · 06-19-2013, 04:55 PM

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So how it going so far nutro!!
I'm glad you went back to take those pics bud!!!
Can't argue with a pic cause it tells ALOT!

Flatbed dropped the car and the new motor off at Henna Chevrolet this morning. I spoke to the tech there that they assigned it to. Dude is a smart guy and has been working on LS based motors for a while. He said he'll make sure It is all done correctly and he'll take care of the car.

The "Other" dealer threw fender covers all over the front of the car it still managed to lightly scratch the front bumper.

Henna Chevrolet? - The tech that is going to work on the car is going to put that white adhesive plastic wrap all over the front of the car and the fenders as well.

thahemp · 06-19-2013, 05:07 PM

Sounds like a fellow gearhead. Everything feels better so far.

06-18-2013, 07:30 PM	#365
2014v6 Drives: 2014 black 2 LT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 639	its called damage controll and saving face guys.. i would bet GM is the one who said this is whats going to happen and you are going to do it... GM dont want the dealerships to look bad at all... They are the front line customer support service and sales for a big corporation... __________________ Ordered:May 18 2013 2000 status 6-11-13 3000 status 6-12-13 TPW 7-22-13(6-14-13) 3300 status 6-28-13 3400 status 7-18-13 3800 status 7-20-13 4200 status On its way home 6000 status 7-31-13 first camaro ever... Sold 7-5-14.. thank you oshawa assembly

06-18-2013, 09:04 PM	#369
MrandMrsNinja Drives: 11' SGM 2SS/13' GT/08' F-150 4x4 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: League City, Tx Posts: 1,264	Glad things got sorted out. __________________

06-19-2013, 12:48 PM	#372
willhe64 Drives: 2012 45th Vert, 2011 4x4, 9sec Vega Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,188	Let me add, as a race engine builder of 25 years. There is no way, NO WAY I would pop a head off, see that kind of damage and replace the valves and let it go. A total tear down and inspection of every piston, rod, valve, bearing, valve guide, oil pump etc. Piston to valve contact is never light damage. They get whacked but good. Common thing is to have the piston skirts bent from the hit. The valve hits the piston off center and the piston skews in the bore. You can't see that unless you pull the piston and measure the skirt diameter. My buddy who owns a shop will do a good visual, and if it all looks good then tell the customer that a valve job/replacement will fix it up but there is no guarantee how long it may last, that the proper way is to do a rebuild, then leave it up to them to decide. This is on older high mile low performance 4 bangers and such. And this is not because of his mistake. And this is not on a brand new warranty high performance car. __________________ I feel it only fair to warn you, I have a black belt in CAPS LOCK.

06-19-2013, 12:58 PM	#373
DemonZL1 199 Drives: like a granny Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 1,917	Nice Job Nutro. Clearly you made good choices on handling this. Where i felt you were immature, you were doing what was necessary to get the outcome you wanted. I apologize for that and congrats on the new engine. __________________ 2023 Silverado LZ0 Duramax 2021 Shock SS 1LE A10 www.youtube.com/@DemonWorksPerformance Anderson composites coupon code : Demon

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06-18-2013, 08:07 PM	#367
KeepItShut Drives: 2011 CGM 2LT/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 394	Awesome news, good for you Nutro

06-19-2013, 04:45 PM	#376
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	So how it going so far nutro!! I'm glad you went back to take those pics bud!!! Can't argue with a pic cause it tells ALOT! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

06-19-2013, 05:07 PM	#378
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Sounds like a fellow gearhead. Everything feels better so far. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x