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Old 01-21-2018, 11:10 PM   #29
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Knowing the plan is the key and those that know it aren't sharing it. So bootlegged documents that pop up now and again are always suspect. You need to know the source of the document and the age of the document (can change) and the purpose of the document, which could very well be to throw the public off (doubt that though but it would be funny)

The last go around for the mid engine (pre bankruptcy) it was intended to replace, not supplement the front engine car.

Pricing will be the deal. GM will not sell 40,000 $150,000 plus mid engine Corvettes. The new Acura NSX (base price $156,000) has sold less than a 1,000 units in it's two model years. For $150,000 I think you can get a 911 GT3. And that's the battle GM has had for years. Porsche-files do not consider Chevrolet Corvettes, let alone Camaros, to be in their league regardless of the performance.

We also have no clue what else GM may or may not be doing engine wise. A document that shows reductions in 6.2L engines can simply mean there is something to replace it that it not reflected in the document.

We simply can't know.

But it's also half of the internet for auto sites like Camaro5/6 and that's speculation.

So we have two inter related questions. Where is the Corvette going price wise and is GM really trying to let the Camaro fill in the bottom of the pricing?

If GM intends to keep the Corvette affordable then there is a ceiling on the Camaro. If GM takes the base Corvette up North of $75,000 and has extreme performance even in a base model, then that opens some more space for the Camaro. If they don't then it will probably look a lot more like today with some serious overlap. But the top performance car will always be the Corvette. As much as everyone loves it that they now share the top engine (for a little while anyway), GM will not be able to permit a $100,000 plus super car that can get out run by a 2+2 coupe for $70,000 from the same brand.

We can only guess for now.

An even bigger question is simply with the teaser for the GT500, will GM counter? Do they even need to with the ZL1 coming? And it has been pretty well known Ford had this coming so GM has actually had time to decide that. And if so, that will be an $80,000 Camaro or more. Almost the price of a 911.

All fun and games discussing things we can't know.
Current C8 pricing speculation is around $70k.

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There's more from the Corvette Forum thread:

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1.A) A 6.2L, 16V, OHV, for the Y1, front-engined, Corvette platform;

1.B) A 6.2L, 16V, OHV, for the Y2, mid-engined, Corvette platform;

2) A 4.2 L, 32 V, DOHC, for the Corvette Y2 platform; and,

3) A 5.5L, 32 V, DOHC, also for the Corvette Y2 platform.

II. Corvettes’ Projected Future Motor Needs:

A) The 6.2L, Y1 front-engine platform, is projected to use 14,000 motors for 2019, declining significantly for 2020 to 9,000; and even more for 2021 with just 3,000 engines that year — and no more front-engined Corvettes are listed after 2021. Guessing here, that perhaps that the 9,000, 6.2L’s will go into 2020 & 2021 Z06’s, and the much lower amount of 3,000 6.2L’s projected for 2021, will go into ZR1’s (the last year of the ZR1)?

B) The 6.2L, Y2 mid-engine platform, is projected to use 14,000 motors for 2019 through 2021, then slightly less for 2022-2024.

C) The 4.2L, Y2 platform, is projected to use 7,000+ motors every year 2019 through calendar year 2024. (All 4.2L’s would be produced at Tonawanda.)

D) The 5.5L, Y2 platform, is projected to use 5,000 motors annually 2019 through 2023. None are listed for 2024. (All 5.5L’s would be produced at Tonawanda.)

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...gh-2021-a.html
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Old 01-21-2018, 11:35 PM   #30
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GM Alpha 2 Vehicle Platform
The General Motors Alpha 2 platform, otherwise written Alpha II, is an automotive vehicle architecture designed to underpin compact and mid-size vehicles with a longitudinal front-engine, rear-drive configuration. The platform is a successor to the first generation Alpha architecture, or Alpha 1.
Like Alpha 1, Alpha 2 was engineered with a focus on world-class driving dynamics and light weight, and can be adapted to underpin luxury and non-luxury vehicles. We expect Alpha 2 to make its debut on the next Cadillac ATS and next Cadillac CTS lines, followed by the next Chevy Camaro


Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/gm-pl...#ixzz54tAL3Dqb

According to this source, AlphaII will be introduced to Camaro in 2023.
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GM Alpha 2 Vehicle Platform
The General Motors Alpha 2 platform, otherwise written Alpha II, is an automotive vehicle architecture designed to underpin compact and mid-size vehicles with a longitudinal front-engine, rear-drive configuration. The platform is a successor to the first generation Alpha architecture, or Alpha 1.
Like Alpha 1, Alpha 2 was engineered with a focus on world-class driving dynamics and light weight, and can be adapted to underpin luxury and non-luxury vehicles. We expect Alpha 2 to make its debut on the next Cadillac ATS and next Cadillac CTS lines, followed by the next Chevy Camaro


Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/gm-pl...#ixzz54tAL3Dqb

According to this source, AlphaII will be introduced to Camaro in 2023.
I think the 7th gen will get alpha 2, however 6th gen production ends Sept 2021.

7th gen should be a 2022 model.



Here's the V8 engine lineup: (speculated)

1. 6.2L, 16V, OHV

2) 4.2 L, 32 V, DOHC

3) A 5.5L, 32 V, DOHC
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