IS ANYONE BUYING THE Z/28's

[Stephen12ZL1]

Originally Posted by brt3

There's one big reason why the PCCBs wear so quickly -- bad drivers. Now, I'm not saying that Porsche drivers are any better or worse than Z/28 drivers, that's NOT my point. What happens is that the Porsche uses the brakes as to help rotate the car. It's a sophisticated system that makes the rear-drive car unable to kill drivers who are over-driving the car.

This was driven home brutally hard a few months back. A friend showed up at an HPDE with the latest/greatest GT3. Seriously, these are beautiful, and it had all the good stuff. He asked if I wanted to go for a ride, and though I generally don't like being a passenger if the driver's not a Pro, I thought, "Why not?".

Huge mistake. I've never been carsick since I was age 6 (and the milk I thought tasted funny proved to be bad) but this was awful. It took every ounce of willpower and controlled breathing to not vomit inside my helmet. The guy was brutal -- absolutely BRUTAL -- with the controls. The opposite of smooth and incredibly abrupt.

My point is this -- in 911s of old, he would have been dead. I'll check back with him to see how quickly his pads wear out, but that car was correcting his mistakes for at least 75% of every lap.

I love the CC brakes on the Z/28, and they are a huge reason for the lap times the car posts. I can't believe how the car gobbles up smaller, lighter cars in the braking zones.

Yeah...I agree. I hate riding with drivers that aren't smooth with their inputs. I love eating up miatas in the braking zone as well. My brakes still look o.k. after 3 HPDE days and I have a spare set of pads ready to go.

[LateBrakeU2]

You gotta be a Die hard Camaro person, if you compare it to a vette you don't get it.

They will sell every one of these.

You will probably never see another production Camaro built with this level of road course performance.

You will never see a big cube again in anything GM,let alone a Camaro.

JMO

[ddc456]

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

Yeah...I agree. I hate riding with drivers that aren't smooth with their inputs. I love eating up miatas in the braking zone as well. My brakes still look o.k. after 3 HPDE days and I have a spare set of pads ready to go.

How much are replacement pads typically? i am seriously considering one this next spring. The prices have really come off the 14's. I've seen them range anywhere from 53K-57K. Although i have considered wanting until the 17' (if GM releases the Z/28 then). It seems as if Ford is always first to fire their gun, i have a feeling this next Z/28 is going to blow the doors off the GT350R. In light of that, is the GT350R 7:32 sec "Ring" track time true?

I just can't bring myself to drive a Ford, no matter what!

[KaBoom1701]

GM should have priced these at 60-65k from the start...they would have sold a hell of a lot more at that price.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by ddc456

How much are replacement pads typically? i am seriously considering one this next spring. The prices have really come off the 14's. I've seen them range anywhere from 53K-57K. Although i have considered wanting until the 17' (if GM releases the Z/28 then). It seems as if Ford is always first to fire their gun, i have a feeling this next Z/28 is going to blow the doors off the GT350R. In light of that, is the GT350R 7:32 sec "Ring" track time true?

I just can't bring myself to drive a Ford, no matter what!

Ford does not release 'Ring times for public consumption, so even if someone timed the GT350R's lap with that result, it will never be officially acknowledged. in any case, would it really matter? You're not going to drive a Ford, no matter what!

I like how there are multiple posts in this thread trying to explain why z/28 sales are not robust, but nobody is saying what is likely a big driver of the lack of sales for new z/28's and the reason so many previously sold Z's are on the market for resale; there is another track-oriented pony car available for sale that looks to offer better lap times and more creature comforts at a lower price!

Unless you are a brand-loyal kind of person, it would only make sense you would buy the car that offers the best value for the least price.

[lbls1]

Dunno.....this is a hard read. The Z28 is a genious creation, but even geniouses make missteps here and there. I feel that the timing and price are not where they should be with this Z28. Had this been 2010 or 2011 then this car would have been as hot as oven baked bread!! All of us have longed for a 427 Camaro, even since the 4th generation days. Fast forward to 2015, where you have competition from your own camp with two other track focused Camaros (ZL and 1LE), fire breathing pony cars from the competition (Shelbys and Hellcat); The climate now makes a pony car with less than 600 hp and priced at a tad over 75k a hard sell. The Z28 is destined to become a classic, but I feel that Chevy should take notes on the accomplishments of the 1/LE and come up with a more user friendly Z28 for the next generation.

[unplugged4]

I agree with a lot of the points being made about why the Z28's aren't selling. I own a c6 Zo6 but recently sold my modded Ferrari F355, modded 2008 Dodge Viper Coupe & a few other toys. The Z28 was advertised very well & it does have many things that appeal to me as a car guy. But ultimately I wasn't willing to spend that kind on cash on a 5th Gen Camaro. So, I ended up building my version of a Z28 using a '12 Camaro SS theft recovery car. I had purchased a 2008 LS7 engine I planned for another project. I also got the 3.91 GM gears, Z28 rear differential cooler & Z28 cold air intake. I built it for under $30k. No it doesn't have the seats, suspension or brakes, Nor is it a real Z28 but I had a Katech torquer 110 cam, MSD airforce manifold, long tubes, Nitrous, KW coil overs, rollcage,sway bars & other suspension mods added. So now I can save for another fun toy to add down the road.

[delphigto]

Originally Posted by lbls1

Dunno.....this is a hard read. The Z28 is a genious creation, but even geniouses make missteps here and there. I feel that the timing and price are not where they should be with this Z28. Had this been 2010 or 2011 then this car would have been as hot as oven baked bread!! All of us have longed for a 427 Camaro, even since the 4th generation days. Fast forward to 2015, where you have competition from your own camp with two other track focused Camaros (ZL and 1LE), fire breathing pony cars from the competition (Shelbys and Hellcat); The climate now makes a pony car with less than 600 hp and priced at a tad over 75k a hard sell. The Z28 is destined to become a classic, but I feel that Chevy should take notes on the accomplishments of the 1/LE and come up with a more user friendly Z28 for the next generation.

I agree. If gm would of offered the 1le package and a 10k ls7 package it would of sold well. Throw a zl1 rear diff in and now your talking.

[ClawSS]

I think that the Camaro should be just a base with check boxes. Any engine that is engineered to fit, with the suspension that you want. Secondly, you can uncheck anything you don't, like radio, a/c, p/s, carpet...etc.

I am not a industrial engineer, but the Zeta is very accommodating and don't the same lines all build the cars? If a guy wants Recaros in his LS from factory, then let him.

All of a sudden you are the guy selling the LS/LT/SS/LE/ZL/28

[backtotintops]

Originally Posted by ddc456

How much are replacement pads typically? i am seriously considering one this next spring. The prices have really come off the 14's. I've seen them range anywhere from 53K-57K. Although i have considered wanting until the 17' (if GM releases the Z/28 then). It seems as if Ford is always first to fire their gun, i have a feeling this next Z/28 is going to blow the doors off the GT350R. In light of that, is the GT350R 7:32 sec "Ring" track time true?

I just can't bring myself to drive a Ford, no matter what!

just got oem front pads 361 and rears 359 on Amazon and they were even a bit cheaper on there a few months back.

[Red2014SS]

Originally Posted by ClawSS

I think that the Camaro should be just a base with check boxes. Any engine that is engineered to fit, with the suspension that you want. Secondly, you can uncheck anything you don't, like radio, a/c, p/s, carpet...etc.

I am not a industrial engineer, but the Zeta is very accommodating and don't the same lines all build the cars? If a guy wants Recaros in his LS from factory, then let him.

All of a sudden you are the guy selling the LS/LT/SS/LE/ZL/28

That's kind of how it used to be, back in the day. I wish it were still that way too. You could really create a great sleeper back in the 60's. You could get a monster engine, with dog dish hubcaps, no radio, no heater.. cheap money race car, right out the door.

[Col. Brain]

Originally Posted by backtotintops

just got oem front pads 361 and rears 359 on Amazon and they were even a bit cheaper on there a few months back.

How long do rotors last?

Id love to DD a Z/28 but the brake costs have scared me away a little.

$1500 brake jobs is not something I want in a daily driver.
$400 for pads isn't bad at all

[I4toV8]

Originally Posted by Col. Brain

How long do rotors last?

Id love to DD a Z/28 but the brake costs have scared me away a little.

$1500 brake jobs is not something I want in a daily driver.
$400 for pads isn't bad at all

im at 10k miles and they still feel brand new/ look brand new according to the tech that is

[ddc456]

Originally Posted by backtotintops

just got oem front pads 361 and rears 359 on Amazon and they were even a bit cheaper on there a few months back.

Not bad at all. Shouldnt be all that difficult to change out the pads when they go.

Now i just have to finish building my 72', should be done soon, they sell it. well, and finish convincing my wife we NEED a 14' Z/28!